Snowden uncovers shocking truth behind Chemtrails

According to Snowden, chemtrails are the only thing keeping the US from global warming incineration, but at what price?

According to Snowden, chemtrails are the only thing keeping the US from global warming incineration, but at what price?

MOSCOW, Russia – Edward Snowden, the hacker who gained access to every secret corner of the Internet during his tenure at the NSA, has come forward with details of a classified project to alter the world’s climate. The shocking truth, as he says, is that chemtrails are part of a benevolent program aimed at countering global warming. By cooperating in secret with jet fuel manufacturers, government agents have carefully kept the massive chemtrail efforts completely under wraps. Snowden added, “I am only revealing this program because there is no oversight in the scientific community, no public discussion, and little concern for the side-effects which are well known only to a few privileged people interested in continuing the decades-long chemtrail program in secret.”

Because climate change is a threat to U.S. agriculture, it has been labeled a national security issue. With the influence and cooperation of Monsanto, a secret Geoengineering lab dubbed Muad’Dib has been operating since the late 1960s, and the chemtrail program is often referred to by insiders as its “crown jewel.” Muad’Dib has aimed to protect North America’s climate at all costs – even if that means accelerating desertification in Sub-Saharan Africa or spreading trace amounts of carcinogens over lightly populated areas. Other side effects, which scientists at the secret Muad’Dib Geoengineering Lab have predicted, include droughts in the Amazon and powerful windstorms along the East Coast.

Snowden shared decisive documents with The Internet Chronicle, but out of concern for national security, only his testimonial can be published. These documents contain references to scientists who would surely be targeted by foreign counterintelligence, and their knowledge is vital to short-term survival of the United States.

Snowden said, “If this program were to stop, the scientists behind it strongly believe that within just one year the North American climate would spiral out of control, and crop failures would lead to a series of devastating famines that would quickly depopulate urban centers.”

Because the program has been carried out on such a massive scale, skeptics might find Snowden’s story unbelievable. However, Snowden explained that the chemtrail program has been incredibly easy to hide, especially with the cooperation of jet fuel companies, a crucial part of the military-industrial complex. Snowden said, “The chemicals which are released by passenger airplanes have been covertly introduced as ‘additives,’ supposedly to improve efficiency. Only as the plane reaches cruising velocity does the heat and atmospheric pressure cause a chemical reaction that synthesizes the top secret carbon-trapping molecule. This process is imperfect, and many of the by-products are incredibly dangerous even in trace quantities. The most dangerous thing is that although chemtrails are keeping the climate of the U.S. reasonably stable, citizens are bombarded every day with an invisible rain of carbon-laden molecules, and the effect on health is totally unknown.”

310 comments to Snowden uncovers shocking truth behind Chemtrails

  • t

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    All these facts and statistics should be taught to children in public schools before a child reachs reproduction age but its not taught because the pro-life government only wants children to know the good not the bad. Pro-lifers only reproduce to satisfy themselves and they do not truly care how many people suffer in this world. Most people are born from teenage mothers who are too young to know any better and when they get older many of them realize they made a mistake by having kids in the first place because public schools and their pro-life parents never taught them any better and the reproduction continues one generation after the next. It’s like the blind leading the blind. Children are legally entitled to be taught and know these facts therefore it is now time that we have to bring lawsuits to force the government to teach these facts to children in schools the same way lawsuits forced god and prayers out of public schools and abortion was legalized. If all these facts were taught in schools it would stop most of the reproduction. New lawsuits can also make it illegal to reproduce and illegal to use public medicaid and medicare to pay for infertility and pregnantcy medical services except abortion. If you do not believe in the abortion pill you should not have sex. Over 20 million abortions occur every year worldwide. If mothers truly love their children they would not bring their kids into this world of suffering and chaos.

    No one has any right whatsoever to bring another human being into this world who did not ask to be born. If there is a god and if god created earth he certainly dose not need us humans to create other people ….he can create humans out of thin air or thru vigin mothers if he really wanted to the very same way the Christians claim that jesus was born. In the 12th centrury society killed Christians for having religious fantacy pro-life beliefs. Psychologists say that pro-life people are insane confused people. Mental institutions and prisons are overflowing adding to the chaos. Live your own life instead of concerning yourself with reproducing other people. There is nothing…..absolutely nothing on earth that we need so why bring other people here to suffer for nothing. We deserve a perfect world …or no world at all. Many people especially the crippled and elderly are angry for being born and say they would never want to come back to this evil world even if there was no suffering on earth. Many pro-lifers give up their own pro-life beliefs once they start severely suffering themselves.

    The next massive meteor that hits the earth will severely injur most of the world population causing even more widespread suffering and chaos. Man is flying rocket ships into outer space trying to live on other planets in his thrill seeking perverted search for materialistic glory but he is just waisting his time because where ever physical humans travel in the physical universe there will be physical suffering. Animals and humans are both driven by pre-programed reproductive genetic instinc which makes them think they have to reproduce. It is time in your life to evolve and realize that reproduction is not logical, fair, legal or moral regardless if god, alliens or evolution started life on earth and you must learn to control your genetic reproduction instinc instead of instinc controling you. Teach your kids,grand kids and other people about all these undisputable facts. Many pro-lifers are simply too dumb or mentally retarded and will never stop reproducing even in china were reproduction is illegal. How many suffering people and suicides have to occur before mankind dose somthing to stop the reproduction because life is the ultimate cause for their suffering and suicides??? Eventually when enough intelligent people realize all these facts revolution will occur and mankind will find a way to totally destroy this evil planet of genetic reproduction as the only way to totally stop all the reproduction so no one including the prolifers will ever have to come to this world of suffering and suicide again. This is the only solution for the benefit of all humanity. After the world ends the pro-lifers will never miss or know anything anyway. Pass this letter along to other people to direct them to this university graduate website at vhemt.org

  • Perhaps one of the publishers from Soviet Union has a conduit with Mr. Snowden, if so connect him to these comments. Mr. Snowden, You have the gold mine of hidden information on how the US has been taken over from within and find it all fowl and disgusting, which is a correct response. Perhaps you have discovered the principle corrupting influence of how the US National Security system was taken over from within, and I want to make sure you know this, because your life depends upon knowing this. The US National Security system was taken over by a Brotherhood that was loyal mostly to Imperialism’s interests. At the very heart of the US battle against Communism has always been those that support European Imperialism and their hidden agents are those that many don’t suspect. The hidden brotherhood basically controlled the Manhattan Project and NASA, and were highly centered in Texas history. They were tied to killing Abe Lincoln, Persons like FDR via slow metallic poisons and stress. FDR composed his 4 Freedom’s plan to be implemented to keep England from using WWII as a launch pad for even greater imperialism of the world via corporatism, big banking. and other methods of Royalist’s wealth controls. Unfortunately, when FDR was killed, Imperialists like Churchill won and took over via Truman’s associations. Then was born the CIA and Masonic Brother Allan Dulles backing Imperialists domination of the US and its intelligence services. What you read in the NSA gold mine was the results of 70 years of this growing worse. When we get to the JFK times, he was hated by the Texas Brotherhood, who backed putting LBJ into the VP slot, just in case they had to Abe Lincoln JFK with a shot in the head. Look that the Brotherhood controlled Lee Oswald via the Brother Guy Banister in New Orleans, and LHO knew way too much about the Masonic Brotherhood trying to kill JFK. Look at the Crooked Brotherhoods members on the Warren Commission: Mason Earl Warren, Mason Hoover supply the bogus LHO data, Mason Gerald Ford moving the bullet Hole, Mason Arlen Specter faking up a Magic Bullet, Mason Allan Dulles himself. The list goes on and on, and LHO connected with Mason Controlled Oak Ridge in July 1963. The Brotherhood of Oak Ridge knew LHO knew too much of how the brotherhood controlled US National Security, so they had to kill LHO. JFK was after Brotherhood alliances Bobby Bakes and LBJ connected with Mason Brotherhood in Houston called Lamar 8F group. This Southern Black hating Brotherhood went on to kill MLK in Memphis and RFK in Los Angeles as they both became threats to exposing the Brotherhood.

    So, you need to be most aware of any Masons that get anywhere close to you because the ones in the National Security and Intelligence system will be very dangerous to you. The original Masons that founded the US, Washington, Jefferson and others, were of the opposition that opposed Imperialism and FDR was similar in opposition to Imperialism. Other Masons in the National Security system that rallied behind Dulles and his Imperialist Bankers of England became the opposition that sought Royalist’s Imperialism to counter Communism. The real fight between Communism and Capitalism is the fear that Communism will take away all the Royalists money and power to control counties via capitalism, corporatism, etc. The Brotherhood backed the Oxford England Scofield Bible, because it told of wars ahead and Imperialism needed wars to gain ground on Socialism. They then built Mega-Churches starting in Texas and HL Hunt’s church and gained greater ground sucking in religious followers to their game plan.

    These are the factors that have taken over the US from within that began with a Brotherhood that back English Imperialism. While the USSR’s KGB blamed LBJ for killing JFK, those that killed JFK were the Brotherhood that controlled the Intelligence Services in the US via Brother Dulles, and a long list that took over the US from within afterwards. The Brotherhood used LHO to kill the Khrushchev and Eisenhower Peaceful Co-existence wants of the 50’s over the Gary Powers U-2 deal. They similarly went after JFK as he built a relationship with Khrushchev by going around the Brotherhood infiltrated US State Department. The very same Corrupt US state Department that FDR discovered was screwing him over on his plans to have Russia and the US partner with peaceful harmony efforts that were all part of FDR’s Four Freedom’s plans that included putting England under International oversight to control their wants for Imperialism and using WWII as a launch into greater NWO type control of the world.

    Be mindful of how the NSA history that you found came to be and be mindful of any Mason Brotherhood controlled countries and those you allow to come near you.

    So, just in case you did not know—-you now know exactly how the US has been taken over from within and just how things have come to the level of debauchery on intelligence matters of the US.

    FDR and JFK were the people that tried to save the US Citizens from this terrible situation. And you are following in their footsteps, and the world may well grant you a Peace Prize, so keep teaching the world what has happened in the US.

  • So, Mr. Snowden,

    I told a good bit on the chemtrail project, and if you want to dump the data to the news media that will earn you respect around the world. Mine also.

    I will back you in all ways possible, because what they have done is criminal.

    The best thing is a full release of these chemtrail issues, because it really is totally out of control and serious investigations need to be sought and crooks put in jail on these Environmental Crimes.

    The Project needs to be under total openness to avoid serious abuse of secrecy for intense profiting.

    • Ross Marsden

      I totally agree. Those would be the two reasons why “the Project needs be under total openness”, as you say.

    • Snowden should bury the 9/11 axe as well. I say give us something we don’t already know.

      I know darn well that wasn’t dynamite that brought down the twin towers. I’ve used dynamite. Dynamite doesn’t get hot enough to ionize steel like that, much less even melt it. Building 7 looked like dynamite, but the twin towers looked nuclear. There is a secret bomb technology we don’t know about is what I suspect.

      If the establishment wanted us to give NIST any credit with the “no explosives” collapse, that ignores the paths of least resistance, then they should not have blown every last bit to kingdom come exactly the same way twice. And later that day, Building 7, which did look like dynamite, albeit that would take serious rigging to achieve such a symmetrical demolition, was dug out and cleaned up first, fast, and gone… “because there were no bodies”… but what was the hurry? We have no evidence to examine…

      If you want my educated guess, there were secret suit case nukes aboard the aircraft that hit the twin towers, and Building 7 was constructed with a “self destruct” engineered in from the start. After all it housed a CIA headquarters. My conjecture makes more sense than the NIST reports.

      I will not venture to guess about JFK and the Warren Commission, but I suspect you’ve studied this, by all your “word salad” on the topic, but I will remark about our present Commie in Chief Obama, and what JFK told the press at the Waldorf/Astoria in NY on April 27, 1961… excerpt….”…we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy using covert means to expand it’s sphere of influence…” and in my mind, this commie we have in the Oval Office is exactly what JFK was talking about, and we now have the enemy in charge up close and personal?

      Also JFK had signed an act to end the Fed, isn’t that right? Didn’t LBJ reverse it immediately when he gathered the reins?

      Secretary of State Philander Knox committed fraud, and the establishment control of the media helped make the 16th amendment stick. We’re not supposed to have an IRS or a FED. We’re all living a lie.

      And the establishment now sprays poison on us without our knowledge or consent!

  • I will toss out the details on the exact technology to which Snowden speaks. The Chemtrails using Civilian Jets is based upon Boron techniques in jet fuel and Boron based Biocides and Lubricity additives.

    Boron burned in jet fuel at high altitude where the moisture in the air is very low makes Boron Nitride and Boric Oxide, both of which are hygroscopic and seed persistent clouds at the 35,000 ft level for aircraft. These clouds spread across the sky in the day and make the scattering shield that LLNL’s Ed Teller envisioned to keep down serious damage from climate change problems.

    At lower altitudes the Boron in the Jet fuel gets burned with more moisture and thus more hydrogen in the burn, and this makes for generation of BH3 compounds of Boranes, and even Boric Acid. The Boranes are extremely toxic down to 1 uGr levels, and produce depression in those chronically exposed at low levels to chemtrail areas. The toxic releases are also connected with Bee Colony Collapse Disorder–CCD, and even Gulf War Syndrome as they used the Boron Biocide techniques there.

    Chemtrials design criteria was drawn from the Aluminum Tetra-boride high energy fuel techniques that became popular after WWII. Wright-Patterson did a study on these fuels and found Boranes and the extreme toxicity that killed the projects. Standard Oil was even going to make a gas company called BORON to make these Boron enhanced fuels for cars. Borane issues killed that too, because it would have been much more deadly that leaded gasoline issues.

    So, with Boron in the jet fuels in such wide use making chemtrails, these same Borane problems are coming on full speed ahead and making problems worse than leaded gasoline problems by orders of magnitude.

    To find the secret for Civilian Airline Chemtrials look no further than the Biocide and Lubricity enhancer called BioBor, which contains Boron. It seeds hygroscopic materials (BN and B2O3) in the air at the same concentration levels that Langmuir designed silver iodide methods to seek clouds.

    For anyone that knows the secrets of Civilian Airline chemtrails, this Snowden piece hit the nail right on the head.

    So, hopefully Snowden will toss out some hard copy sometime soon and the world can get to forcing these issues into the open and perhaps putting some environmental criminals in jail.

  • I suspect someone that knows the US National Security system tossed in this word “Muad’Dib”. Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muad'Dib ) Defined as: “”In Dune, Herbert writes that the Fremen call the Muad’Dib mouse “instructor-of-boys.” Paul Muad’Dib[edit] In Dune, when Paul is accepted into the Fremen, he is given the secret “sietch name” (known only to his tribe) Usul, the Fremen word meaning “the base of the pillar.” “”

    Which then links to Dune’s allegorical theme going back to Masons:

    “”The Spacing Guild Are Possibly Freemasons

    Just as the “great work” of the Masons was (possibly) enlightening individuals so that they could create a world freed from royal shackles, the great work of the Spacing Guild was transforming key individuals so that they could create a connected cosmos. The Guild navigators had their third eye – the Eye of Providence so often associated with Masonic symbolism – fully opened such that they could see the safe pathways through space, making instantaneous travel possible. Just as the new world of democracy and power in the hands of the many was possible only by the work of a few Masons in the American colonies (we’ll ignore the Greek version), and which later gave rise to one of the most bloodthirsty empires the world has ever known, so too was space travel made possible by the enlightened and mutated (or alchemically transformed) members of the Guild, which later led to the possibility of creating a bureaucratic and violent empire. “”

    (http://kylebstiff.wordpress.com/myth-myth-myth/frank-herberts-dune-and-modern-conspiracy-mythology/)

    Most interesting—as that is a type speak that National Security folks well know and falls into the same genre as:

    The Russians used to do this when going into interesting modes. One example was the Russian Red Mercury deal was the advertisement that Russia wanted to sell the US highly enriched uranium. That was allegorical speaking also, which all the National Security folks well understand when they see it.

    I suspect someone behind this article knows much more.

  • Very Few know this:

    “Muad’Dib” is an allegorical signature word that connects back to Mason’s allegorical meanings involving pyramid base symbolism.

    The chemtrails project was principally controlled by Masons involved in the National Security operations of the US.

    Masons in the US cause a lot of trouble, and are right in the middle of the Southern Civil Rights issues that killed MLK. Prince Hall Masons were battling the Southern Scottish Rite Masons for their rights to equality.

    Masons of the South were behind killing JFK. Just look at LHO’s controller in New Orleans. Guy Banister was a 33rd Mason and linked with Dallas and anti-Communist hate gone mad. 33rd Mason black-mailed LBJ onto the JFK ticket in 1960 working with HL Hunt and Morris Jaffe at the Los Angles Convention. Masons behind the assassination cover up were Allan Dulles, Earl Warren, Gerald Ford, Arlen Specter, and Hoover himself. Hoover was bought at paid for by Mason Clint Murchison, as HL Hunt’s banker. Collectively the Masons are termed the Crooks in Oak Ridge and this is the group Oak Ridge sought to implement chemtrails projects.

    That special key world unlocks a lot of Mason baggage in the national security business.

  • Hello,

    Sounds like some extremely interesting reporting, as I about dropped by cola reading about the top secret project that I worked on at Oak Ridge National Laboratory back in the mid 80s.

    Now Snowden describes that work almost verbatim, and appears to have the documents to prove it all exists in the official files.

    All I can say is that it all has needed to come out since the very origin for the project called Chemtrails.

    Congratulations for exposing the project, as you have done mankind a good deed around the world.

    I applaud you, Sir!

    JP

  • wyatt

    the truth about the satire of the internet chronicle…
    http://www.chronicle.su/about

  • Wikipedia has been infiltrated by skeptics. Susan Gerbic uses “Geurilla Editing” to propagandize,conform & push the conventionalist agenda with an army of skeptics & shills. Conspiracy theory often replaces facts.Controversial subjects only get a few lines. Manning has got more pages of slander than a president.

    Metabunk constantly claim TMA-trimethylaluminium, which is pyrophoric(explosive in air) would be too dangerous to handle. However, in the chemical industry it is mixed with HEPTANE to a 14% level,giving it a NPL-Non Pyrophoric Limit.
    Kerosene(jet fuel) is a mix of long chain Hydrocarbons & Heptane can mix with this easily. I believe that because the Heptane is lighter than kerosene C7H14 compared to C12H24, it evapourates quicker in the large near empty Center Wing Tanks & thus the exposed TMA becomes explosive.
    This explains in the early yrs of chemtrailing the explosions in CWTanks, & how now they are fitted with OBIGGS-on board inert gas generating system, which replaces the fuel vapour with inert Nitrogen gas,to replace oxygen filled air.
    Jets fill their wing tanks first & then the CWtank. To take-off they use the wing tanks so in case of electric fuel pump failure, the engines are fed by gravity. Once cruising altitude is reached(long haul flights),the Centre Wing Tank is consumed, & then back to wing tanks for rest of journey.
    This explains why chemtrails appear only at cruising altitude & not on the ground.
    TWA 800 was in 1996, & recommendations from the investigation were OBIGGS.
    Large jets flew for 20yrs previous with no explosions,relying on air breathers to displace fuel vapour.
    TMA + Oxygen = Explosion TMA + Nitrogen = Nothing TMA mixes in HEPTANE & jet fuel next time long haul flight fills tank.

  • Ross Marsden

    G*, you have no respect, and I won’t debate with you as you’ve already dismissed the explanation.
    I have not called you an idiot; I’m not sure why you mention it in a reply to me.
    You can go and correct any page on Wikipedia if you think it’s wrong.
    I don’t think you understand Occam’s Razor. Chemtrails is certainly not the simplest explanation for the trails you see in the sky.
    I hope you find the answeres you are looking for. They are out there, and they don’t involve a global “spraying” operation.
    Cheers, and thanks for reading.

    • I updated my page with a new video at the top. The industrial hygienist from the Air Force delivers testimony that makes Marsden a liar.

      • Ross Marsden

        Woah! That’s a pretty bold claim! I hope you can back it up.
        What exactly does Kirsten Meghan say that contradicts what I’ve been writing here? Let’s start with that, eh?

        • Kristen said they ARE spraying Chemtrails.

          Which one of you is a liar in this contradiction? I’m going with the Air Force Industrial Hygienist turned government whistle blower and choose to dismiss your effort to pontificate as an establishment troll.

          Ross, you’d do well to trade your computer in a a kite. As you run about outdoors trying to get your kite to fly, perhaps you’ll finally see the chemtrails for yourself.

          • Ross Marsden

            OK then, thanks.

          • Thank me for my website and contribution to spreading word to help everyone learn the truth.

            http://lango.us

            You have a long way to go to prove deano wrong about you.

            “Establishment Troll” is a stigma I would loathe to carry. It means you’re a “no explosives were used”, “chemtrails are just weird long lasting contrails”, blind faith believer, product of the system, giving merit to the theory of missing links.

            A religious nut case has it going on compared to your ilk. At least he’s thumping a bible instead of a Warren Commission or NIST report.

      • Ross Marsden

        What about it?
        A picture of not the actual book cover.

        • The title is

          CHEMTRAILS

          and it appears “Chemtrails” is a modern chemistry subject if we can judge a book by it’s cover (not it’s cover).

          Why are you so contrary? Considering the tripe you print I should think you’d prefer to be off doing something beside indulging in news you don’t care about, and don’t believe in. So what’s your motive? Is it fun for you to immerse yourself in something you openly dismiss?

          I think surely you must be a paid media troll. That would provide a motive for what I see from you, otherwise it makes no sense. Why would you otherwise bother to print the garbage you type?

          I believe you should confess. Who sent ya Ross Marsden?

          • Ross Marsden

            Yes, I can see the title is “Chemtrails”. Don’t you know the story of this? Is your knowledge of your favorite subject so lacking?
            https://www.metabunk.org/threads/debunked-1990-usaf-academy-chemtrails-manual.352/

            I do this for the LOLz, especially under this Snowden piece. It’s far more rewarding than money.

          • You don’t say. After a days work, the computer seems to be a good way to rest my bones, yet keep my mind occupied in a satisfactory level of engagement.

            I’m glad I found a stupid head like you, that will stick up for the illegitimate establishment that would have us all unarmed in public, so their bureaucrats can more easily enjoy their double standard of liberty and privacy, while the rest of us have to turn ourselves in and sign up for “obamacare”.

            It gives me a chance to tell you to go fly a kite.

  • I’m no longer certain where you are getting your information, but great topic.
    I must spend a while finding out more or working out more.
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  • Typo apology….”Walsbach Patent” is actually “Welsbach Patent”
    I wonder how many shills will come crawling out of the rot to cast me in a bad light by name calling.
    A big “Debunk” claim is that Al oxides & metal particulates would be like pouring sandpaper into the engine, & thus ludicrus.
    However, if they are of micron size, or attached to other molecules in a compound this is negated.(Remember cars used lead petrol/gas for decades & that is in a metal cylinder under extreme compression)

    JET ENGINES “spray” the fuel into the combustion CHAMBER after air has been pre compressed,ignites, then travels through Titanium turbine blades which are linked to the previous compressor fan.
    JET ENGINES can handle bird-strike,runway rubber debris,plastic bags & other Foreign Object Digestion (FOD) & still function & land safely!
    Volcanic ASH & Snow are concerns because they can starve engine of oxygen & cause flame-outs!

  • Dear American friends, the level at which Washington keeps you denied informatively,biassed or just plain outright lied too is incredible!
    To the rest of the world, Snowden is a hero. A disinfo agent or CIA?
    At first, Obama demanded Hong Kong hand him over.
    Then they demanded Russia hand him over.
    Then US begged Russia.
    They forced down the Bolivian Presidents plane over Europe thinking Snowden was onboard.
    Dont forget it was Putin & Russia that stopped you bombing Syria>you would probably have troops on the ground there now, if peace & commonsense hadnt prevailed!Kerry?
    Germany & Indonesia are furious about heads of state being phone-tapped!

    Washington is VERY scared of what secrets Snowden may reveal next, & this issue, CHEMTRAILS,is absolute taboo. Start looking at alternative news, especially countries that
    arent involved in 5 EYES,> USA, UK, Can,Aus,NZ.

    Metabunk(I am banned from them) has Ross Marsden placing disinfo here.
    A very good yet alarming quick video to watch is from Spain!

    Look at “Chemweb Trails on TV Espagne”. If that isnt “nanopolymers” coming from chemtrails, Spain has some seriously mutant spiders!

    P.S. It is hard to find proof or hard evidence on Al in jet fuel, however, look up STADIS 450. STADIS 450 is an anti static dissapator MANDATORY in all jet fuels, to reduce static electricity build-up when pumping in jet fuel. To conduct the electrical charge it contains BARIUM SALTS !!

  • Ross Marsden is a govt shill & can be found on the debunking site>METABUNK-disinfo
    His references are post 1996,when chemtrails started, so papers have deliberately led to lean about contrails in a harmless way & deny chemtrails.
    Even David Suzuki is on board by associating chemtrail conspiracy theorists as climate change deniers. Shame ,Suzuki,shame> very dissapointed EX-fan
    Chemtrails are for weather manipulation, by maximizing the ionospheric heating, repelling & attracting of charged metal particulates in the atmosphere,which can steer weather formations or create earthquakes & hurricanes.
    PROOF?
    *Operation Cloverleaf” Aerial spraying using comm/mil jets
    *Walsbach Patent* Using micron sized Aluminium particulates in jet fuel
    *Owning the Weather by 2020* USAF document using Haarp & Chemtrails

    Dep of Def W,Cohen “warns of electromagnetic waves to create earthquakes”

    Dennis Papadopoulos (Haarp Scientist) “give me a ship or an oil-rig & I can create earthquakes in IRAN”

    HAARP WEAPONS > Numerous phased radar arrays around globe > COBRA DANE. New sea-based mobile weapon is the SBX-1. Semi-submersible(stable) X-band radar (electromagnetic wave/beam) delivery system, currently in the Pacific!(ex oil-rig)
    WHY would the navy place their latest hi-tech radar on a slow moving 2nd hand 8knt oil-rig?
    To pinpoint Haarp waves by triangulation anywhere in the Pacific!

    Why is the US west coast in a major drought & Alaska in a major heatwave lasting over a year?
    Hillary Clinton was there 2 yrs ago talking with leaders about all of the OIL & Gas reserves under the arctic ice! Now the North Pole has nearly melted away…
    No ice means easier access & can open frozen shipping lanes…..

    The Polar Vortex is from a “Drunken Jet Stream”? No, its HAARP steering it!

  • Hangman Gallows

    Over 200 comment on this traitor, you faggotz in cyberspace are really bored, js

    • Hangman Gallows

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    • @Hangman Gallows
      You can only call Edward Snowden’s courage to come forward honest investigative journalism. Your definition of traitor has it’s foundation by using illegitimate establishment rules.

      The establishment usurped our government in 1913. The establishment has been purchasing controlling interest in the media even longer than that. The establishment controls the global conversation. The establishment is spraying poison on us without our knowledge or consent.

      Glad I could help clear up who’s side you’re on.

  • PJ

    Well, if Monsanto have had a hand in it, it must be alright then. Now we have nanopolymers which not only bind with clouds to form the equivalent of a biofilm to lock in all their poisons, but it can also be breathed in and bind to your own cells as yet another new biowarfare mutating organism. The latest news is that they are now going to add Cesium 137 to the mix, just in case we are not dying off or becoming infertile quickly enough.

    • Ross Marsden

      “nanopolymers which not only bind with clouds” ?
      Really? Do you realise how stupid that sounds? Where did you read or hear that? Someone’s making it up. It’s word salad.

      • you and david lango, together, on our 30 minute spot

      • Anonymous

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      • G*

        Marsden, all respect: do you realize how many things YOU say that sound utterly stupid? I always just move on to the next subject, and don’t give you a hard time about it.

        Science begins with questions. Q: why are there “contrails” side-by-side with “chemtrails” (ok the long never ending (never “melting” “ice”?–how does THAT happen>?)? The contrails are actually beautiful on a clear, blue day. They sparkle like they were full of ice crystals–and I don’t want yet another lecture about “ice” and “altitude” and “humidity”. Damn, talk about condescending.

        “Chemtrails” stay, they fall to the ground, and they do it in front of you. Man, I wish you guys were bank guards, there’d be free money because you wouldn’t see a THING, just like Sgt Schultz.

        “Chemtrails” only exist every couple of days, yet the air traffic is still there…or IS it? Are there enough commercial flights to account for all the “chemtrails”? No. There are not. You can count these on your fingers if you lack a calculator. And you can go to the airline schedules and check every air route, every day, if you like. There are NOT enough commercial flights to account for 19 “con”trails in the air at any given time on a heavy spray day.

        And mostly-what’s the payoff for denying it? Why are so many people calling people like me “idiot”? Why would anyone care if I’m an “idiot” or not? Why does Wikipedia go out of it’s way to label chemtrails a “hoax” by “conspiracy theorists”? Who would do that, and why?

        Try to keep the principle of parsimony in mind while thinking of these things, if your mind is not completely closed. And I think it probably is…(Occam’s Razor)–the simplest theory prevails, all things being equal. There is NO payoff in inventing a hoax of this size. Except lots of time and money OUT the door. There may be a huge payoff for actually doing, and hiding, it. We don’t know, because deniers simply refuse to do the one thing that would plant good questions–that are not being answered–in your mind. Just “look up” once in awhile and see if your “it’s a hoax” theory is substantiated in any way.

  • Kirk

    Measured sunlight levels are 20% less than those stations recorded in 1950. It is the cause of the 30 year drought. Water evaporation is directly a function of sunlight.
    The enhancement of this effect has accelerated drought and makes for bad winters. The lower specific heat of the resulting atmosphere makes for quicker delta T and higher winds.
    Gore fantastic science at its best.
    You reap what you sow.

  • adara

    I love you guys and believe every word you say.

  • I saw a report that Ahmadinejad from Iran demanded the U.N. stop spraying as his place on this planet has been stricken with drought as a result of weather manipulation.

    This is a secret weapon, that has been used for causes of greed and war, for the decades that have followed World War Two.

    I am trying to verify a report that Monsanto paid pennies on the dollar for expanses of land in Australia that included entire towns, and the rain started falling again since it’s sale.

    The destruction of Earth’s ozone from spraying these aerosols is real. I’ve felt it. The sun is hotter on certain days. Withering hot. “need shade” kind of heat. I remember as a kid in the ’70’s sitting on a tractor plowing a field for hours without a shirt and no sun block. I got a tan that was the envy of my friends at school. It’s different now. It feels darn wicked mean hot on certain days, and this destruction of ozone makes sense.

  • Borell

    Here are some staggering air contamination numbers if this report is trustworthy.

    http://www.rense.com/general82/chemit.htm

  • Borelia

    Here are some staggering air contamination numbers if the report is trusted.
    http://www.rense.com/general82/chemit.htm

  • Unca Bill

    Mr. Snowden does NOT tell all the truth! I have been tracking Chemtrails for over 8 years and http://www.educate-yourself.org has more on its website than Mr. Snowden reveals! All one has to do is go to a search site of their choice and enter ChemTrails or ChemBuster and they will have more info than they coulld use for a very long time. Just Saying, Y’all,…!!

  • i'm just a lil bug

    Happy 2014 New Year to all! It’s a great time to be alive on Earth at this time!

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  • Austin

    This is a strange viewpoint. Not denying your belief in chemtrails. Rather, I would simply like to point out that if the government wanted to poison people or the land , water would be much more effective. The government controls and supplies almost all the water in the US and regulates the rest of it. They could simply slip some chemical into the water in a seemingly inconsequential concentration and viola. Additionally, any chemtrail over your city is not going to fall on the city (most likely) do to crosswinds, which can exceed 300 miles an hour. Those chemicals could easily land in Asia even though it was targeted for the US or Europe etc. Finally chemical sprinkling that kills humans would also likely kill most other life in the US and render the US inhospitable to living or resource exploitation (my idea with water would also have this concern) at the end of the day the government has the best interests of the country if not it’s people at heart and will not do anything to destroy the very nation that gives it power.

  • i'm just a lil bug

    Who do you think is controlling the U.S. Government?

    Archons: Humanity’s Controllers – Robert Stanley
    http://youtu.be/RlWOISfuZvA

    Ari Kopel YouTube channel

  • i'm just a lil bug

    First of all, I do not like this article. Either Snowden is lying or the article is a big fat lie. There is nothing benevolent bout chemtrails. Okay? Nothing! We are not that stupid. However, I am surprised that a lot of people are still ignorant of the chemtrails. It’s as if they do not even look up at the skies. Time for humans to wake up and smell the chemtrails. Yes, sometimes they even have a smell to them. I smell these mostly in the mornings. Very foul smelling, I cannot even explain it. Chemtrails affects my respiratory system and lungs. They also affect my mood because I get so mad at the entities responsible for this. There is no complaint department to go to about this.
    Time to learn about chemtrails. Not only that. Time to learn about the enemies, namely one of them called the Reptilians.

    The End of Reptilian Overlordship Part 1 – James Bartley
    Ari Kopel Youtube channel
    http://youtu.be/SSRIJV4O1UA

  • nowhere man

    Buy or make a 6 pipe orgone Chembuster for the chemtrails, also buy or or make orgone towerbusters for around your house and the neighborhood (Youtube has many videos on how to make them). These will help remove the chemtrails as well. Here is where I bought my Chembuster: http://www.orgonecrystals.com/store/proddetail.php?prod=lemurian-cloud-buster
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  • Bohdi Sattva

    Glad I came across this article. I was taking a walk with the dog earlier and noticed more chemtrails than I have seen in a while. I mean criss cross, tic tac toe all over the place and just haze everywhere. I have been watching these for about 5 years now. I am a little frekaed out honestly. I thought maybe I should just go back inside becuase you know that stuff is falling down on you.

  • Lulu

    Just another spray day here in the Bay area. Seems every time a weather system tries to move into our area to bring desperately needed rain, the sky spraying machines go into full gear. 2013 the driest year in California history and it looks like the plan is for it to continue. We’re in a severe drought now soon to be extreme.

    As former BC Premier Bill Vander Zalm describes it, ” Chem-Trails are said to consist of tiny particles of the very harmful toxins, Aluminum and Barium. Toxins that we inhale, poison our water and kill the soil. We can avoid cancer causing second hand smoke, but there’s no way to avoid the far more toxic particles that fall from the sky. Already diseases like Cancer, Alzheimer, Lou Gehrichs, Huntingtons, Parkinsons, Autism and Bone diseases are at a highest level ever, all of which could be directly linked to Aluminum… I would highly recommend that anyone wanting further information, check the internet for well known Neuro Surgeon Dr. Russell L. Blaylock who tells us about Social Engineering by the Elitists, funded by such foundations as “Rockefellers”, Ford and Carnegie.”

    • Cydney

      Same here in No, Nevada Again. Woke up at sunrise no sprays then all of a sudden got sprayed with a straight line straight across the sky making a long line then another stopping at the long line shaped into a Y. Disgusting. Then all day long sprays like crazy. Yesterday saw the tic tac toe and several XXXXs amd today it was worse than yesterday and everytime you go outside you cough and eyes are itching. This is all crap. They are fucking killing us. Unbelievable

  • Anonymous

    We have taken dozens of pictures them… they poison our water supply and are slowly killing us..at first our water had started to smell like bleach..no it’s gray looking for

    • Cydney

      wHAT PART OF THE WORLD DO YOU LIVE IN. THEY ARE SPRAYING BEAUTIFUL LAKE TAHOE, NEVADA AND CALIFORNIA LIKE CRAZY RIGHT NOW. IT’S SO OBVIOUS WHAT CHEMTRAILS ARE OPEN YOUR EYES PEOPLE. IAM A SIMPLE PERSON AND I KNOW AND HAVE SEEN THESE FOR YEARS AND YEARS. DON’T DRINK ANY WATER FROM ANY TAPS.

    • Anonymous

      Agreed and Anomous is correct I thought I was sick when every soda taste flat n the water bitter. People laugh n I believe its that ignorance thats got us in the place

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  • Nate

    Expert testimony invariably reflects the political/social/religious/ethical perspective of the expert. This is why so many experts have such widely differing opinions. When I hear what an expert has to say I also want to know his background and motivations. There is always an agenda , that’s why their opinions are being expressed. I want to know what that agenda is. Now in the case of chemtrails I want to know why there I such an effort to debunk the great myth. If someone believes in some myth I could not care less, let alone make a mission of correcting the mis informed. The effort to debunk adds credibility to the claim. Amid all the claims and counter claims two items cannot be escaped. The second law of thermodynamics which simply states that a substance will return to it’s prior state after the heat is removed. Steam goes away at room temperature. Ice crystals will return to their previous state when placed in it. Of course this is oversimplified , however, I have found there is much useful information in simple facts. The second item that cannot be ignored is that these supposed chemtrails fill the sky and turn it white. Notice how once deposited they do not go away, they spread and layer after layer spreading throughout the day turns the sky white. It is not relevant weather they are called chemtrails or contrails they are pollutants. They are not harmless any less than any other form of pollution is harmless. The fact that they fill they sky and turn it white is alarming. This cannot be good for people, animals, plants etc. So why all the effort to convince the populace they are harmless?

    • Ross Marsden

      Hello Nate! I’ll tell you why people debunk the chemtrails hoax. It’s because of the shear mass of bunk that is crammed into any few sentences that are composed about them. For instance, take you post here:
      1) That expert testimony/opinion is driven by an agenda
      2) The effort to debunk adds credibility to the claim.
      3) Your statement of The second law of thermodynamics
      4) That contrails are pollutants
      5) The implication that contrails, assumed to be pollution, (and as opposed to the absence of them) is harmful.
      To some, this concentration of utter bunk cannot be passed by, and must be at least commented on.
      Now, about the steam going away at room temperature… you cannot release steam indefinitely and have it “go away”. Eventually you will reach water saturation of the air for that temperature, and no more steam will “go away”. It will remain condensed.
      And it’s the same with ice – it will not evaporate in air that is so humid that it is saturated with respect to ice. That is the situation with persistent contrails – they are being formed in air that is at least ice-saturated. The surplus water vapor deposits on the ice of the contrail. This is why most of the water mass of a contrail has come from the environment.
      Cheers. Thanks for reading.

  • Cordstock

    I did notice some natural contrails today which somewhat indicated the weather was right. For me its all about trail characteristics & observation, not so much weather.. since that is a given. Normal contrails follow certain behavior characteristics. Chem trails differ entirely – especially in their on/off and sputtering behavior as well as their duration / staying power. They also lack the “comet-tail” effect which is inherent with normal contrails. A gentleman earlier went to painstaking lengths to describe these things in very good technical order although it may have been more than some people can stay with. Peace to you all and Merry Christmas!!

  • Cordstock

    True. The weather conditions seem right. I’ve been in aviation over 25 years.

  • Cordstock

    At least in our area (Los Angeles area) chemtrail pilots must have gotten some holiday vacation time off leading into Christmas Day. Our skies have been virtually FREE of chemtrails for the past day or two.. perfect clarity in the skies as far as one can see. Prior to yesterday? every single day going back the skies have been bombarded with chemtrail smutt everywhere. This ‘reprieve anomaly’ I also noticed at Thanksgiving. Say what you like, but unless your head is loose it’s pretty obvious folks. Look up and pay attention. If it were true that heavy air travel (increased normal contrails) were the cause of chemtrails then we would be seeing MORE trail smutt right now at peak holiday air travel not less.

    • Ross Marsden

      Yes, you are right PROVIDED that conditions at cruise altitude was good for contrails and persistence. If not, then no trails. It’s not about the holidays, it’s about the weather up there.

    • Cydney

      Same here in Dayton, NV and the whole Reno area on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day no Chemtrails and nothing again yesterday but today they are all over the sky making our blue skies cloudy and gross. I am so sick of this shit shit shit.

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  • Douglas Richard Palmquist

    The name Josh means “god saves” …. may all of you who love be judged fairly in eternity. I am already labeled as adisident and will surely be of some of the first to be kidnapped (perhaps courtesy of the new indeffinite detention act) …. “Ross” and his little friend there probly are disinformation agents. Everyone else please don’t use violent-speak. They will use anything they can against you to bound you up and murder you in prison probably. Satan is becoming very deffiant because his time to be thrown into the pit for a thousand years is drawing near. Let all of us Americans who have a conscience that leads to life and not death stand as one. May God Jesus , Yeshua the Messiah, be with us all. Try just to be love in these last days and be brave. Do not even try to go up against Satan, just run from him and pray to god. And listen to god. So much more to say, but just know this, we do have a just god and NWO’s and rothschil’s and whoever else’s plan -all the children of Satan- for global domination will not last, they will fold in on themselves as evil always does. May love endure forever. May THE Father’s will be done. God bless you all and thanks for the info~ just make sure you’re careful when they push us to revolt- they already have plans to murder as sell us as slaves – so my advice, love every day, love evry body, run from satan and keep on keepin’ on. Take it easy ya’ll.. Jesus Loves you.

  • noonespecial

    The American military first started using Chem trails in nam.Recently Edward Snowden released documents of the program.Operation Popeye was a program to make it rain on the Ho Chi Minh Trail, bogging down the main Vietcong supply route.During 1968 the U.S. Air Force undertook two experimental operations that it hoped would exacerbate the worst parts of the above-mentioned weather patterns. “Project Popeye” was an attempt to indefinitely extend the rainy monsoon weather over southeastern Laos by cloud seeding. Testing on the project began in September above the Kong River watershed that ran through the Steel Tiger and Tiger Hound areas. Clouds were seeded by air with silver iodide smoke and then activated by launching a fuse fired from a flare pistol. 56 tests were conducted by October; 85% were judged to be successful. President Johnson then gave authorization for the program, which lasted until July 1972.”Project Commando Lava” began on 17 May. Scientists from Dow Chemical had created a concoction that, when mixed with rainwater, destabilized the materials that made up soil and created mud. There was enthusiasm from the military and civilian participants in the program, who claimed they were there to “make mud, not war
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ho_Chi_Minh_trail

    http://www.chronicle.su/news/snowden-uncovers-shocking-truth-behind-chemtrails/

  • Joe

    Very interesting that people exert so much effort to “debunk” the stratospheric aerosol geoengineering. I have grown extremely tired of explaining the changes that have happened where I live over the past 10 years, but mainly over the past 4 years. The most simple thing is that contrails do not turn on and off. They simply do not. As they conduct massive campaigns over my home (over the northern part of the state I live in actually) on an almost daily basis, I can freely observe what is being done. I’ve been alive for 45 years and in that time I have never seen what the detractors call “normal contrails”. Why, suddenly, did these “contrails” come into existence on a VERY large scale? Increasing air traffic is a total cop-out. That is simply not the case, particularly where I live. My credentials are these: I have 20 years of experience as an engineer. I hold a B.Sc. in Electrical Engineering, a M.Sc. degree in EE, with my major being Control Systems Theory and Design (control of dynamical systems), and Electronics. I am completing a Ph.D. as well, with only a couple of courses to complete. My research work is complete, and I am published in several scientific journals and conferences. I have worked in all manner of capacities as an engineer including electrical-electronics, telecommunications, mechanical, and aerospace engineering. I have a large amount of training in mathematics and physics, including training in areas such as mechanical dynamics, thermodynamics, simulation and modeling of dynamical physical systems, numerical analysis, chemistry, aerodynamics, fluid dynamics, and even atmospheric science. So I am qualified to speak on matters of science. So I’d like to say that the phenomena being observed is not contrails as known in the sense of the common definition. What is being OBSERVED does not fit, whatsoever, the definition of, nor the science of water vapor trails left by jet aircraft. I emphasize OBSERVED, as that is part of the scientific method. Another is replication of results. Just by simple observation one may readily understand that what is covering the skies, and forming by the merging of parallel lines of chemical compounds which appear behind jet aircraft, and which merge in roughly 30 minutes time to form massive sheets of sunlight-blocking “clouds”, are not by any means what is commonly known as contrails. The replication is simply watching this activity occurring on an almost daily basis under atmospheric conditions that do not result in water vapor contrails. One question to ask is: “Did these jet trails always exist in their current form, or are these trails different than that of the condensation trail?”. The answer, if you are old enough, and live in an area where the phenomena is beyond common is absolutely not. This is a phenomena that has appeared recently, as in the last several years and the appearance of the said phenomena has greatly, and I do mean greatly, accelerated. Being an expert in linear and nonlinear control systems and dynamical systems modeling and analysis, I can say in no uncertain terms that what I observe does not match the definition of the contrail. Almost daily I observe the jet aircraft approach my home and then suddenly start emitting “contrails”, which I will now call “chemtrails”. When the chemtrails begin to appear from the aircraft, you can see the dynamics of the pressurized tank, valve, and nozzle action come into play. This means that the system exhibits at least second order dynamical characteristics in that you see transient oscillation in the spray pressure. It manifests visually as seeing “puffs”, that is, in an off-on fashion, where it then reaches steady-state resulting in a continuous stream. Next the aircraft will reach some point on the horizon and the trail stops suddenly. Sometimes this on-off action happens repeatedly, and in particular when the aircraft reaches where another trail has been laid down. Once that point is passed, the system is activated again with the same oscillation in the system pressure, making these little “puffs”. I could go on with a much more in-depth physics/mathematical based discussion, but it’s just not appropriate here for lack of space. I will say this: Turning on an electro-mechanical valve, e.g., solenoid valve in series with a pressurized tank, directed by piping to nozzles, is equivalent to a step-type forcing function. When a step-function is the input to a dynamical 2nd order or higher system described appropriately by differential equations, the result which depends on the physical parameters of the system, is to have the following at the output of the system:

    1) A rise time.
    2) An overshoot (under-damped system) of the steady state final value.
    3) Oscillations around the steady state value.
    4) A finite settling time.

    All of the above depend on the system parameters such as pressure, volume, mass flow rates, piping diameter (area), length, chemical characteristics being dispensed, and so on. So when I discussed above the “puff-puff-puff / steady stream” phenomena that is observed, it is due to the output response of the system to the step input. A step input is simply like turning a switch from off to on, that is, the pressure in the piping goes from zero to maximum in a very small amount of time instead of turning on slowly, such as would occur if the control valve was a linear type servo valve that could be slowly opened. All solenoid valves open “instantly” (compared to any other system time constants, or eignenvalue, or transfer function denominator pole locations) when voltage is applied to the coil to open the valve.

    The governing differential equation of such an open loop system is:

    dP^2/dt^2 + (2*zeta*omega_n)*dP/dt + (omega_n^2)*P = (omega_n^2)*u(t)

    where zeta is this damping factor of the system, omega_n is the natural frequency, or the resonant frequency, and u(t) is the control input, which in this case would be a unit step function, or an on-off switch. P is the system pressure and therefore, the pressure P is the output of the system with the input u(t). P is the solution of the second order, linear, constant coefficient, ordinary differential equation above. P as a function of time, under the conditions where you see the output oscillate (under-damped), is of the form: P(t) = A + [EXP(-zeta*omega_n*t)*(B*COS(omega_d*t)+C*COS(omega_d*t)] Where A is the final value under steady-state, and the second term is an exponentially decaying sinusoidal function which disappears as time grows with the damped oscillations being of frequency omega_d. Omega_n is the natural frequency of the system. Think of it as pushing down on the hood of your car suddenly when the shock absorbers or struts have gone bad, and it bounces up a down instead of stopping quickly. Now this is the phenomena you will observe happen when they are spraying. Air in the lines would also cause a “puff puff” scenario. You may also have had your plumbing rattle in your home when you suddenly turn on your water at the kitchen sink. This is simply what happens in a great many natural and man-made systems. Almost everything can be described mathematically by a differential equation of system of DE’s. Now that may have been too in depth for a layman or for one who has little scientific training, but the other descriptions I gave clearly debunks the contrail theory because this phenomena would simply not occur in a naturally occurring jet aircraft vapor trail. So the bottom line is this folks – just look up and watch what occurs. It should be evident, even for someone without any scientific training whatsoever that contrails behave entirely different than the “chemtrails” do. What I just described is a simply elegant mathematical and physical description as to why these are not contrails. This is just one of many scientific examples I could provide as to why what you are seeing is not just your everyday contrail, which if you study it, you will find isn’t very common anyway because the conditions for a real contrail to form have to be just right. This example is just the most obvious and easily observed situation.

    My apologies for this long post, but I felt it would be a valuable tool for showing that these aircraft are indeed spraying something and using systems which can be turned on and off. They made no effort to dampen out the oscillations and therefore they are clearly visible. If they had used a linear servo valve which was opened slowly, say over a few seconds, this would not occur. But the valves they use open in a millisecond time frame causing system oscillation. It is possible that some of the planes have the chemicals mixed in the fuel and thus you wouldn’t see the phenomena I discussed in those cases. However, practically all the aircraft I see leaving trails exhibit the described oscillation. If this weren’t for evil, they wouldn’t be hiding it. If it were to save us from burning alive, they would just tell us all that this is what must be done. Since they hide their activities, in plain sight I might add, I cannot believe that it is anything but sinister and what it will ultimately achieve is an instability in the close-loop climate system potentially resulting in a “mini ice age” or worse. Go study human history and you’ll find where there have been warm periods and cold. During the cold periods disease, crop failures, and famine occurred. During the warm periods, mankind prospered, crop yields increased – even farming in Greenland occurred, and vineyards popped up in the UK, and disease rates dropped. This is usually caused by volcanic activity which sprays untold tons of fine particles into the atmosphere which blocks solar radiation from reaching the Earth’s surface, and you get cooling. Personally, I’ll take the global warming any day, any time. Warm = prosperity, cold = death, destruction, and human suffering. If they trigger a positive feedback loop, or cause the climate system to go unstable in one of the many, many feedback loops, we could go into a period of extreme cold and suffering. So, you must ask in light of the history of the elitists and their support for eugenics – “Is this what they want?”!!! Have a nice day, and don’t let the paid hacks or the ignorant deter you from spreading the word about this evil. I by no means intend this post to be offensive to those who have not awakened to the situation, or are true disbelievers that this horrific situation is indeed occurring. For those folks, I’d ask that you study about it and see what you can learn. I think you’ll come to the same conclusion I have if you open your mind to the fact that sometimes governments can be extremely evil and will kill if necessary for a handful of people to keep their power, or perhaps kill off the useless eaters who are destroying “their” planet and using “their” resources, as if you study it, you’ll find that this is what they truly believe and it is nothing but a manifestation of pure evil.

    • Mark

      Joe, one of the issues not yet discussed is the deliberate on/off of something being sprayed. I’ve a feeling that Ross has no experience observing this, I’ve actually watched 1 plane produce an SOS pattern 3 times, perfectly, which I assumed to be a joke. I’m sure that Ross will have an explanation :)

      Ross you aren’t hip enough to engage until you catch up on real documents.

      • Joe

        Mark, that was just one of the more obvious things I’ve observed and due to my background, I could describe it in detail as to why you see it. This fellow Ross may try to produce some explanation, but I can probably whip up the system model rather quickly, and then run it in a simulation using Matlab/Simulink – it’s something I do every day at my job.

        If you have these chemtrails occurring right over you on an almost constant basis, you just can’t miss it. The skies here used to be so beautiful and deep blue. Now they look white-blue and washed out most of the time. People where I live are waking up to it because they never saw it before in their life. It has seriously ramped up here to the point to where I don’t see how anyone could not notice it. I’ve discovered that many people here have noticed it, and they know that it is being done, but they never really talked about it or mentioned it to anyone. For some reason, the area where I live gets bombarded severely. Sweet home Alabama, where the skies are (not) so blue! LOL.

        Another thing easily noticed is that they do it heavily over populated areas. If you get far out into the countryside you don’t see them. The largest city nearby is about 250,000 people and that’s about 30 miles away. They seem to spray over my area, then the trails merge and drift over that city and linger there all day.

        Well, all we can do is hope that enough people wake up, find out what’s in the trails, realize it is deadly to living things, and do something about it in mass. Seems to me that people are too busy with their lives, with sports, with celebrities, and buying trinkets made in China to concern themselves with anything that our government is doing. We live in very dangerous times indeed. God bless you and your family and take care.

        -Joe

        • Selena

          Joe,

          Thanks for your post. I live in the Northern Virginia area where we are also bombarded daily with chemtrails. I have taken many pictures of chemtrails, and chemtrail planes in the past 5 years and have shared them with family and friends. Those who are open minded agree they are not normal condensation trails. My fear is the younger generation that has never grown up looking at true condensation trails will never understand what they are supposed to look like. Whatever evil sector of our government promoting this program will be allowed to continue and older generations will be viewed as quacks if they protest. I have a relative who is an engineer who continually debunks chemtrail theory stating that it is a result of too much air traffic and the combined condensation of so many planes. On a beautiful sunny day I challenged him and said ‘what if it was just one plane’. As we were standing there on the sidewalk a lone chemtrail plane was flying over our heads leaving an enormously long trail from horizon to horizon basically cutting the sky in half with a bold white line. He looked up and from that point forward has accepted the fact that chemicals are responsible for the trails. As to sky writing in a previous post, the pompous ass pilots flying these planes do leave symbols for us. On one occasion overhead I saw a gigantic and ominous X written across the sky as bold as can be. Not to be crude, but they are boldly effing with us. The weak need to wake up and realize our government is not what we think it is. Since about the year 2000, a beast has boldly come into power and is not influenced by any political party. It does what it wants and to that end must be an elite branch of very powerful people who have absolute control over our military and are financed by a greedy corporate/banking system.

          Peace Out

          Selena

    • "The Real Shill"

      Joe, that Onanist post adorned with self-gratifying lists of your own hard-won ignorance will not fool me. That’s right — you’re a blatant shill.

      Just think about the way such ideology acts on The People who believe it. By making the claim that an insane and suicidal cabal is committing ongoing slow-motion global genocide, you are placing yourself inside a hyper-misanthropic paranoid Venn diagram outside the circle that Glenn Beck calls the “Overton Window.” According to his theories, you will be able to warp that window merely through your existence, but what he doesn’t know is that you and everyone else “outside” the Overton Window are already circumscribed (written around) “within” its horizon, so reality for those inside the Overton Window is a language game that just don’t get how it swings and pansuicide is not a responsive or flexible message on this trajectory. Try again.

      Or think of the intrinsic logical problems contained within the idea of world leaders, struggling in economic competition with one another, who all at the same time grow fey and lethargic from the worst century and in this state opt to secretly commit colonial suicide in a drawn-out effort infinitely more expensive than the nuclear winter available, for free, at the mere push of a button. At least it satisfies an analogue with the way individual humans quite often indulge Thanatos. An unconscious cabal of ennui-stricken world leaders gather in meetings they can never remember to plan the suicide of the human species, drawing it out. Like Johnny from The Room, eavesdropping to confirm Lisa’s cheating on him when he already knows it then rubbing himself on Lisa’s Red Dress — smelling it — and then shooting himself in the face. From the point of view of a plot, you’re in The Room territory.

      At least the idea that it is a secret attempt to control the weather has some real-world analogues as massive weather control operations have been industrialized and utilized, openly, by many nations around the world. That state apparatuses would have integrated this technology with airlines beyond public scrutiny is not, itself, beyond reason as is evidenced by the oft-reported-on and nonetheless “surprising” and wide ranging activities of the NSA which are characterized in their most sinister form by the secret collusion or co-opting of the government with enormous corporations.

      That this text presents a program aimed at the sustainability of America at the expense of the stable weather systems in other parts of the world should not be read as a “softer” conspiracy because it is in fact more hardcore. A colony with a survival plan which turns the rest of the planet into a desert is more insidious and in fact less enlightened than the “Radical Eco-Punk” genocide in which the biosphere is saved at the mere price of the death of all humanity, if one imagines that such competition must always escalate. Like nuclear stockpiles, a war of weather control could blow out all possibilities for any life at all on earth under fairly ordinary circumstances. So really this is far more insidious and disturbing than any of your paranoid, narcissistic fantasies, Joe.

      • Mark

        Yet Ross, you will refuse to learn about US Government programs by reading the direct documents available on the United States Government Accounting Website, which is a .gov extension representing the US Government.

  • Ross Mardsen In Denial

    To all the Ross Mardsen’s and others in denial to the true genocidal actions of the NWO, bankers, government officials with Chemtrails, Flouride….

    WHAT WILL YOU SAY WHEN CONSPIRACY BECOMES TRUTH???? THE TRUTH IS COMING OUT AND YOUR NAIVETY WILL SHINE CLEAR. SURE, WHO WANT TO BELIEVE THAT ALL OUR HARD WORK AND TAXES AND OUR BELIEF IN A GOVERNMENTAL SYSTEM, WAS A LIE AND WASTE OF TIME.

    • Ross Marsden

      What will YOU say when it turns out that the “chemtrails” are contrails after all, just like NASA, FAA, the universities, EPA, and all the other debunkers and “deniers” have been saying for 13 years?

      • Mark

        Ross, you are not familiar with the Global Aerosol program are you. I suggest you consult with factual research and models as developed by Leeds University in the UK and The British Royal Society. You are quite ignorant on this subject it seems, I’m not attacking you, but believe me you are wayyyy out of the loop man. This is beyond conspiracy or conjecture, and pure science and fact, go google Leeds and British Royal Society.

        • Ross Marsden

          Thank you Mark. Yes I am very familiar with the Atmospheric GeoEngineering proposals and discussions (if that is what you are referring to). Lost of institutions and parliaments are figuring out the regulatory framework and studying the impacts and possible consequences of starting an actual program. No one gas done that to date.

          The trails you see in the sky are contrails; they are not the visible result of an atmospheric geoengineering program. Do you really thing the commercial airlines would get involved with that? What altitude do you think they are? They are certainly not at 20 km (60-odd thoudand feet) in the stratosphere. The clouds that result from those trails create optical phenomena identical with cirrus cloud indicating that they are ice clouds, just like cirrus, and not any of the substances proposed for atmospheric geoengineering.
          So there are two solid arguments that the trails are not geoengineering, and one appeal to incredulity.

          It’s you who needs to do some factual research about contrails; how and why they form, and how and why they dissipate, and don’t dissipate.

          • Mark

            Ross, there are various holes in your comments.

            1) Rarely will you see what you are referring to at night. The basis of solar radiation reflection and cloud brightening as utilized in aerosol programs is in fact rooted in the premise of solar reflection.

            2) Leeds University, amongst several professors there, is in fact a designer in part of global reflection programs and in fact has several admissions of its use, I’d imagine that your familiarity with geoengineering has potentially caused to to skip over researching there.

            3) The Royal Society, one of the lead organizations in aerosol architecture has several published works on the program and its global implementation.

            4) I do not and did not suggest that commercial airlines are responsible for aerosols.

            5) Lastly, At age 56, I’ve been a licensed pilot for both prop and jet aircraft for 23 years, with at present licenses for small jet operation on several Lear aircraft which I fly approximately 30-35 times annually. I own 2 small engine aircraft, have flown in the US Navy for 10 years prior to that. I am WELL AWARE of condensation, vapor envelopes and what their behaviors are and in what conditions they will form/linger/dissipate. Additionally, I’ve sampled through what people commonly refer to as chemtrails for privately funded research projects. Air sampling through “chemtrails” is nothing new, however, I’d not be satisfied had I not flown the aircraft myself, and did have such an opportunity twice.

            Has it ever occurred to you that the phenomena you are suggesting in respect to the behavior of non-dissipating condensation trails, did not exist 30 years ago, or perhaps you are forgetting looking up then? As an aspiring Naval aviator back then, believe me, I was ALWAYS watching the skies. In fact, I have been since I was a child, dreaming of flying.

            I respect your intellect and research, but once again I am suggesting that you have not researched or are aware of the actuality of such programs as active.

          • Ross Marsden

            Mark, There are no holes in my comments.

            1) I did not refer to any solar radiation reflection and cloud brightening aerosol programs. I was referring to contrails, and they certainly do occur at night. Why wouldn’t they? You don’t need daylight to make a contrail; formation depends of temperature and relative humidity, and other considerations.

            2) http://www.iagp.ac.uk/ “Integrated Assessment of Geoengineering Proposals” A lot of words, not any doing.

            3) The Royal Society: again lots of thinking, talking and writing, not any doing.

            4) I’m sorry, I appologise, you are right, you didn’t “suggest that commercial airlines are for aerosols”. So what organisations do you think are directly involved with the supposed flight operations doing all this atmospheric geoengineering, the aerosol spraying you claim is so real?

            5) So what were the results of these “Air sampling through “chemtrails”” that you claim to have been involved in. Have these “privately funded research projects” published the results? Can you refer me to the report documents.

            No it never occurred to me that non-dissipating condensation trails did not exist 30 years ago. Why? Because they did exits that long ago, and right back to WWII and earlier. What makes you think they did not exist? And how does your claim they didn’t exist reconcile with your claim that you are well aware of what conditions contrails will form/linger/dissipate. How do you explain photos of these trails from before 30 years ago. Certainly they were not as common 30 years ago, I grant you that. There were far fewer flights by jets at those altitudes then compared to now.

            Since you are so familiar with all that vapor stuff and contrails, could you give us a quick primer about the condition of ice supersaturation in the upper troposphere. For instance, why do regions of ice supersaturation exist while water supersaturation regions don’t? What would happen in you introduced some ice particles into a region of ice supersaturation?

            I’ll put some pop-corn on.

          • Mark

            Mr. NZ, are you familiar with project Skywater? Being so deep in your term of research, let’s begin, at some of the beginning huh? I assume you have read the GAO’s report by The Comptroller General of the United States, I believe the year was 1974? If I recall correctly you can get that report on the GAO’s website, an official US Government source, is that good for credibility and authentication?

          • Max

            Ross, if you are for real I just ask that you spend some time watching the sky. Proof is in the pudding. Watch the sky brother, just watch the sky.

          • Ross Marsden

            Brother Max, I am certainly for real. I’m a meteorologist and I spend more time than most watching the sky in more than just the visible part of the EM spectrum. The proof of the pudding is in the eating. Not really the most applicable proverb for this situation, but it is important to write it correctly. You Americans have been saying it wrong for 60 some years. Jus’sayin’.

          • Mark

            The funny thing about Ross is he thinks because he “is a meteorologist” if he is at all, that he is an authority. Ross has obviously never consulted satellite imagery of even space shuttle footage, nor had the experience of being underneath spraying. Ross doesn’t even know that the event we are discussing here is not happening at night. Ross doesn’t even know that that the trails are finite in length and concentrated over certain areas. Ross focusses so much attention right at this bullshit article site, which is completely bullshit btw as Snowden has never discussed this in any verifiable form, much less, the presentation of aerosols here is incorrect, BUR ROSS WANTS TO ARGUE TO THE DEATH! Ross the guy who chooses selective fact and tries to focus on an anomaly in only areas of his choosing, who lives in New Zealand AND RARELY EVEN SEES THE TRAILS.

            ROFL

            Ross, you are a funny, fat, old, arrogant and feeble, debunker.

            I showed Ross history of weather mods since 1970’s in the US General Accounting Office website archives. I was going to take him through a series of 14 documents that would bring him right up to the GAO financial reporting on Aerosol programs. So this pathetic fat slob (and yes you are fat Ross, spend as much time as you do shooting your mouth off, on your weight control and you might not have a high blood pressure problem) attempts to dismiss so much that he doesn’t even understand how much of his own wheels he is spinning.

            Ross you are a liar and a fraud. WHO GIVES A FUCK that you claim to be a meteorologist. YOU HAVE NO EXPERIENCE IN WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT YOU IDIOT. But it’s not just about that is it Ross :)

            It is too bad Ross, that you haven’t been under a perfectly clear sky, which becomes completely overcast 4 hours later while one watches the trails combine. Imagine a completely clear sky you asshole, becoming overcast from CONTRAILS for airplanes.

            ROSS, SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY. YOU REMIND ME OF PRESIDENT OBLAME-Oh

          • Ross Marsden

            Whatever, Mark, whatever.

      • Mark

        Ross, let’s start with a history lesson from our very own US Government’s website…

        http://archive.gao.gov/f0902a/110752.pdf

        http://www.gao.gov/assets/210/200512.pdf

        If I want to sit here all night I can educate you right up to the aerosol program, but I’ve a feeling you, are a joke.

        • Ross Marsden

          Oh, 9 minutes before you posted that, you said “You are not worth any further investment of my time and have proven to be an arrogant POS indeed.” But here you area again.
          So these links are about weather modification by cloud seeding. Earlier you accused me that I don’t know what I’m talking about. Actually, it is you who who doesn’t know. Look, weather modification and cloud seeding for precipitation enhancement or hail suppression is well known and no body denies that it is going in the open and with no secret. This is nothing to do with the supposed “aerosol spraying”, chemtrails, what ever you want to call the persistent contrails. Is this your fall-back position; railing about weather modification. So, is that all you have? Old documents about weather mod?
          Will you next be strenuously against pollution from aircraft? That is another chemtrail fall-back position. Yes, I am too, but that is not the chemtrails narrative either, is it?

          Just note, it wasn’t me who started with the language and the personal insults.
          Stay classy Mark.

    • Mark

      Ross, when I am not typing on a phone keyboard in a few hours and at my computer, I will gladly supply you with my link list. In the meanwhile I do remember http://www.srmgi.org (SRMGI – Solar Radiation Management Governance…)without consulting my browser favorites.

      I am curious btw, what YOU believe has changed in aircraft in the last 30 years whereby condensation trails now form and do not dissipate to a point of turning a clear sky into a “hazey” day? Just wondering, how someone with your intellect believes that condensation from aircraft turns a clear day into a thin overcast of diffused sunlight. Maybe you live in a rural area of this country and don’t witness what others are dealing with?

      • Ross Marsden

        Mark, There are more high bypass jet engines now; that is probably the most common type, and jet engines have become more efficient. Both of these factors lead to a higher occurrence of contrails because of the wider range of formation conditions; contrails can form in slightly warmer air – slightly lower altitude.
        Also there is a far greater number of aircraft in the commercial fleet and a far greater number of flights than 30 years ago.

        What evidence apart from you memory do you have that these persistent contrails did not exist before 1983 (30 years ago)?

        This does not directly address persistence. The only requirement for persistence is that the contrail is formed in a region of ice supersaturation. The occurrence of those has not changed as far as I know.

        Once a persistent trail has formed its evolution depends on wind conditions which will move and stretch it just like it was a cirrus cloud.
        Some of the haze you speak of happens regardless of the presence of trails; a weather front moving into your area will have that effect.

        I live in New Zealand. We have an small chemtrail activist presence here mostly located under the main flight route up and down our somewhat linear country.
        About 2007 they adopted the “it’s geoengineering” narrative, just like all the other activists around the world after Murphy and Griffin published their “What in the World …” misinformation video.

        I live somewhat off the flight track, so I seldom see the trails. I am a meteorologist, so the whole thing is of interest, and well as the fascinating workings of conspiracy theories. I love the “self sealing” property, and that every argument against the theory is folded into it as if to reinforce it.

        • Mark

          Ross,

          You have quite a bit of catching up to do. If I were you I would look into the US GOV. General Accounting Office documents, on their own website, in regards to weather modification. You are way off man, this has been going on here for a long long time. You can acquire those documents directly from the US Gov. website for the GAO office, many of them are still sitting on their web servers. In the US we track weather mod programs via the Secretary and the GAO, the ol’ follow the money trick ay Mr. Meteorologist. I can talk science with you all day, that is NO PROBLEM at all. You are however, missing a huge piece of data, the fact that our Gov. here has been playing for many years and had annual budgets for such.

          Go search United States GAO and weather modification, you will get some new data in that thick skull of yours :) Cheers mate, got a flight to catch, that I’m flying. As for the altitude of your condensation, oh we aren’t dealing with much here my friend. I realize you are talking about something completely different than what I am. Our conditions here are low altitude dispersing, this isn’t natural condensation. I’d take a look at those docs if I were you, you will begin to understand what some of these things in the USA are about.

        • Average Joe

          Chemtrails are not contrails. I have sat and watched these trails form into cloud banks. A contrail dissapears begind an aircraft quickly. I have watched both in the sky at one time. I have collected a rust colored dust which was deposited in my car after a chemtrial induced rain. Use the eyes God gave you. I can only imagine you believe the World Trade Center just Fell Down. Take a prosac and return to the matrix. You can awaken someone who sleeps, but you cant awaken someone who pretends to be asleep.

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  • ChemTruther

    Alot of shills and Trolls here telling Aerosols are not being sprayed upon us every f.ck.ng day.. Damn,,, You are so easy to spot. You guys are so intelligent that you could go on without your heads.. Chemtrails and Aerosols are real and is sprayed and is destroying every living thing… The evidence is here and the truth will allways prevail in the end. Hopefully not to late :-I

    • Ross Marsden

      Hey ChemTruther”, about this “Chemtrails and Aerosols are real” … do you have any actual evidence? Apart form videos and photos of contrails, stories of rain and soil tests that actually show the expected concentrations of Aluminium, etc, and whistleblowers who have nothing of consequence to say. What have you got?

      • John James

        Buddy,

        Having lived in many countries around the world(most of my time in the U.S.) and currently living in a country in Asia, the phenomenon only exists in the United States. Currently, I live a couple miles from an international airport. There are literally hundreds of planes going past my house every day. Yet not one have a Chemtrail. I look up at the sky and see NOT ONE streak in the sky. Yet in the United States? Crisscross.

        What surprises me is your absolute denial without investigation. You ask for evidence? Here it is:

        http://www.rense.com/general82/chemit.htm

        • Ross Marsden

          Without investigation? I have been investigating this for 5 or 6 years in my country of New Zealanda nd in the United states. Whithout exception the trails are observed to be in the atmospheric conditions where contrails persist – high humidity. What is the problem with criss-cross? Do you have any idea what the ait traffic system looks like in the USA? It is criss-cross, and X and V and all kinds of geometry. The contrails make it visible.
          Get on to Flightradar24. Make some observations for yourself. Pick a regualr flight past your house. Observe it every day. Keep records of the days and time it makes no contrail, a short one and a long one. Soon enough you will gain some understanding of aviation and the US air transport system.
          Stay away from the tin-foil-hat sites.

          • Mark

            Ross,

            I’ve mentioned to you that I am on a cell phone, at which you may note the length of time it takes me to reply to you. If you’d like to challenge my experience or science, and have a real conversation perhaps you will be inclined to select a more adequate medium, like the telephone. I am not interested in your debating skills nor justification capacity that all trails in the sky are from condensation. If you are so interested in ISSRs I suggest you read NASA’s ADS reports, since I am sure that no more than an audience of you and I will be paying attention to a symposium you suggest I offer on such. For a fella on the internet, you sure do assume yourself to be a leading provider of accuracy and knowledge, despite your intellect my friend, you are yet shielded from certain things. This is likely due to the slight stubborn and marginally arrogant attitude you tout. As for the condensation trails happening at night, of course they do, wiseass. However, you almost never bear witness to the trails that those here are referring to as chemtrails, at night.

            I’ve no problem discussing extratropical tropopause regions with you, however I do see you thus far as wasting a lot of time focused on debunking, one of your obvious favorite things to do :)

            Cheers mate, enjoy a little Hobbit time.

          • Ross Marsden

            Oh, so this is about me now? How did that happen? Don’t complain to me about how hard it is to carry this conversation on your mibile phone. That was entirely your choice.

            I didn’t mention “extratropical tropopause regions”. I don’t know what that means. And, “marginally arrogant attitude”, huh? Well, I don’t like your fake ingratiation and flattery.

            Listen Mark, if you post bunk and address it to me, then I will de-bunk it for you and anyone who cares to be interested.

            Cheers.

          • Mark

            Ross,

            Let me be clear. I really don’t give a fuck what you like or don’t like. As far as posting bunk, check this jackass… you are a liar. I can provide hard evidence of active US Government Programs, financed and reported by the US Government themselves, WHICH YOU CAN REFERENCE ON THE US GOVERNMENTS OWN GOVERNEMENT ACCOUNTING OFFICE WEBSITE. You are the only one full of bunk, I’ve learned not to argue with ignorance, I could not present information to someone who JUST DOESN’T KNOW WHAT THEY’RE TALKING ABOUT.

            AND – You have the nerve to talk to me about ice supersaturation in the upper troposphere and you don’t even know what extratropical tropopause regions are? Are you kidding?

            You my friend are way the hell out of the loop, naïve and ignorant at the same time, not to mention you practice a blazing denial of hard evidence when it is at your disposal. A meteorologist who “seldom see the trails”? Is that what you said Ross? Researching for 5-6 years something you seldom witness and professing condensation?

            Not only do you have limited exposure, but you my NZ friend, are the only real shill around here. You are not worth any further investment of my time and have proven to be an arrogant POS indeed.

            US GOA OFFICE ROSS – They even fuck with lightning. Imagine that. READ THE REPORTS THAT THEY PUBLISHED YOU IDIOT.

        • Gai Anderson

          Not only the USA …… definitely happening over Australia

      • Mark

        Ross, I’ve provided you with the necessary information for all your evidence. If you’d like I will put hard links into the post however I do not find that appropriate as someone verifying the integrity of their own search results in a search engine. You tell me if you need direct links and I will be happy to provide such to verifiable hard evidence done by extremely credible organizations and institutions, some of which who actually design global climate control programs. Sorry pal, Aerosols are real and are being dispersed. That is fact. Has been for a good while actually, and sadly. My biggest personal gripe is what gives anyone the right to put anything in our air.

        • Ross Marsden

          OK, Mark, give me a direct link to the page or document that says, in effect, “Yes, folks, we are actually spraying the atmosphere with aerosols to cool the planet. We are going at it balls-to-the-wall! We use aircraft types: X, Y and Z. We operate from bases: A, B and C. We use these substances: L, M, N, O, P. And here is a close-up of a nozzle. /”

          Go on; give me that link. Bring it.

  • LouV

    You guys are awesome.
    A french chemtrail believer translated this and put it on her blog on Mediapart (bit like the Huffington post).
    Needless to say french chemtrail skeptics had a good laugh.
    She pulled it off Mediapart but it’s still in Google cache : http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache%3AVjUQp4UhQ5UJ%3Ablogs.mediapart.fr%2Fblog%2Fchamallow%2F280913%2Fsnowden-revelations-propos-des-chemtrails+&cd=4&hl=fr&ct=clnk&gl=be&lr=lang_en|lang_fr

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  • Paul M

    Is there a reference or other source for this? I can’t find it anywhere :(

  • Can M. Snowden back this claim himself ? I mean, it’s all nice and easy to write “he claims” but it would be important to authenticity the claim somehow ?

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    • There are two ways in which a man can fulfill his ideals. One…and this way is the most common on Earth… is through the gathering of wealth. The second way…and this the most powerful, is through the attainment of wisdom. Wisdom can be obtained through meditation and fasting. Fasting and prayerful thought for two days at a time or, if you are ill, one day at a time in every seven, until you are well. Nothing makes itself. Everything created has a creator. Systems have to be designed. This is the realization you tap into. The knowledge of influence by thought. But understand and remember this…hatred and bitterness always stays within and harms you more. So…concentrate on wisdom and your way forward will become clearer. You will come to know what you should do. You are not walking alone.

    • Thats what i’m allways saying. let’s kill all rothchilds. if things does not get any better, we excuse and canonise them in fourhundred years (standard procedure).

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  • Please understand that the solar system itself, is warming up. Mercury, Venus, Earth and Mars, with our own moon developing an atmosphere, are being observed and studied right now. America with the U.K. have sent a space vehicle to orbit the Sun to try and find out what is going on, because, at this time, we don’t really know. Our magnetic poles are moving. As are those of our our Sun. A complete pole shift maybe. They do say it has happened before. This is not a time to squable so nastily amongst ourselves. In saying that, I can also say that of course chemtrails exist. Hot air rises, cold air falls. They don’t, and being so high. They should disperse or fall, not last all day. Normal clouds travel. They don’t. A different chemical mix. It may be to keep you safe this time (ozone). In the late 1940’s until the late 1960’s it may not have been. It was stopped then by a British member of Parliament. Baker I think his name was. So please don’t go shooting anyone until you KNOW you must defend yourself. Belief aint good enough. Research all I have said.

    • Ross Marsden

      SMH & KMT (3 times)

      • It is nice to know there are people like you who want to know these things. Makes the effort well worth while. There are many out there so opinionated…well, I’m sure you know just what I mean. I can see you research with an open mind. BYE.

      • George J. Papagiannes

        I recently read a book from our public library entitled “AREA 51.” The book doesn’t talk about Aliens it explains why this Area 51 was off limits. The AEC or Atomic Energy Comission in the 1950’s conducted all it’s secret nuclear bomb test there. They did evrything imaginable. They even went so far as to conduct atmospheric nuclear and Hydrogen bomb tests that blew a hole in the Ozone Layer of our protective atmosphere and they blamed it on other well known causes! This hole has not in fact been getting smaller but larger. Hence, our protective atmospheric ozone layer is admitting higher quantities of cosmic rays! My Dermotologist specifically warned me about being out in the Sun for any length of time. The AEC changed its name to NEC to avoid exposure and lawsuits. Cosmic rays kill! Cancer is the result. My doctor went ballistic when I laughed at her warning to stay out of the SUN! Unbeknowst to us we are being bombarded by higher levels of lethal Cosmic Rays!

    • Earl

      The ‘aluminum’ meme is pure bunk. All the levels shown by chemtrail believers in videos are perfectly ‘normal’ if you actually take time to do some real ‘research’ and compare the shown figures to historical levels… as for Barium, it’s what ‘Cesium’ decays into. It takes 30 years for Cesium to decay into Barium and a lot of the Barium in our environment is the result of atmospheric nuclear tests in the 40s 50s 60s and 70s and gosh look Chernobyl was 30 years ago too and that released masses of Cesium… must be a coincidence eh? I mean after all what have the Romans… I mean… the scientists, ever given us eh?

    • Anya

      The sun changes it’s magnetic poles every 11 years

    • peter

      hey Collin thanks for the all info.. About the moon i have seen a big strange ring around it and thought it was weird an atmosphere is interesting. With so much going on in the world today its hard to remember everything you see and hear and look into it… so again thank you for the reminder and trying to walk people up humanity or life in general cannot get enough help with that…

  • Bella_Fantasia

    This is NOT a fake story, and this is not a benevolent or benign program. See Geoengineeringwatch.Org for the real science behind these lethal programs. This should deeply concern everyone.

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  • yoyo

    It’s BS

    “Aircrap.org received a huge traffic
    spike the last couple of days due this article: Snowden Uncovers Shocking Truth Behind Chemtrails – HAARP
    Assassination Agenda – CFR Millions Spent Confuse Public. Unfortunately,
    the source for the first part of the story (Snowden uncovers shocking truth behind Chemtrails),
    in which Edward Snowden allegedly blows the whistle on chemtrails, is The
    Internet Chronicle – a fake news site like The Onion.”

    see limk for more details
    http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2013/07/fake-news-stories-being-exposed-2710908.html

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  • Shannon

    Wake up people . . . . it’s poison. We cannot afford to wait on this. I had three of these over my head on Sunday morning . . . took a very long time for them to disappear. A very long time.

  • Bernie

    Just google weathermodification.com
    An actual company with a website openly talking about who their client country clients are and what they do.

  • Anonymous

    Science can be proven so prove it

  • dave~2

    This is incorrect…its not solving the problem its CAUSING it…this is CULLING in action.

  • Carlos

    Sheri, why didn,t you take those samples to be analyzed?

  • Dave

    It’s funny, I was thinking about this without looking into the reasearch and I came across this document.

    http://royalsociety.org/uploadedFiles/Royal_Society_Content/policy/projects/solar-radiation-governance/DES2391_SRMGI%20report_web.pdf

    It makes sense if I was faced with this choice, I would employ solar radiation reduction! That is what I think this chemtrail thing has been about. It makes sense to go ahead and do it without public knowledge, especially considering page 17 section 1.3.1. Some things just have to be done covertly. It’s not acceptable to end up in a “I told you so” situation. Especially when you are facing massive crop faliures and mass famine.

    Capitalism has given us no choice but to employ these methods. It’s a symptom of the disease! And like in Dr Monus book, “Whats killing you and what to do about it” we have a habit of masking symptoms rather than dealing with the cause, but in this case there is no choice. Yes we have been dealing with the cause over the past decade with reducing emmisions etc, but we are a little late really, and I don’t think we can do much about the causes anyway, we have been prey to some natural carbon emitters that emit so much carbon dioxide it makes our man made emmisions look very insignificant. Recent events such as the Iceland volcano I believe have escalated the crisis, after all, we were delivered out of the ice age thanks to the carbon emmisions of the volcanos!

    If we had kept with localized food generation, we wouldn’t have such a need to take these drastic measures! The world system as it stands is not efficient and cannot cope with the smallest changes in cliamate.

    Sometimes youre just left with the choice of nuking the cancer with Chemo and Radiation, both at great cost to the general health of the body, but at least it might do something fast, albeit with “unacceptable” side effects.

    Gosh, that was a rant.

    • Daniel

      Wow you are really an ignorant my friend. It doesn’t bother me reading regular comments as to wondering if this article is real or not and trying to find the source of it. But when someone comes up with a comment like yours, I have to enlighten you a little with some anti brainwashing or to de hypnotize you.
      First off, nature cannot survive without co2. Actually, nature produces more co2 than anything else on this planet. Without it there wouldn’t been life here. Look up documentaries on how plants and vegetables grow at a higher rate and produce a bigger yield when being cultivated in enclosed areas with higher co2 than the normal. There’s so much research and proof out there that shows that co2 is increased when temperatures rise because they stay within the atmosphere at higher concentrations. Look it up and maybe with some rational thinking, you will come to the same conclusion as 30,000+ scientist in the US came about the scam of global warming (conveniently now called “climate change”) because many many scientists believe we are heading to a small ice age. So please do your research and maybe stop watching the propaganda your tv is making you believe.

      And thanks for mentioning cancer and chemotherapy and radiation. Another terrible claim made. There’s absolutely no proof that chemo cures cancer. What it does is it debilitates both the good and the bad (cancer) cells in our body. Therefore kills cancer cells but also kills you and your immune system altogether. That’s why pple that undergo treatment they end up like a vegetable sucking everything inside out of you.
      YouTube: cancer: conventional medicine vs alternative
      Please be intelligent in your reasoning.

  • Dick Formo

    Steven Foutz should admit he gave away his common sense for a degree to hang on the wall. I guess they got you good,huh Steve ? Get the facts,Stevie Boy ! I wanna see you back here and admit your error !

    steven Foutz

  • Dick Formo

    How long have jet planes been flying through the air ! All my life I’ve not seen kris kross patterns in the sky ! WHY ? Because they are chemical trails that are 100 miles long and get many miles wide in a hurry ! If ya,really,want the truth,ask the Koch Bros. ! Forget it ! They won’t tell ya !

  • Marcin

    All you people writing long stories on how chemtrails are a hoax, you should spend that time and do research into wheather modification, Carbon Management techniques and so on. Its documented by the worlds most recognized organizations that weather modification is already taken place. Believe what you want but the proof is there.
    royalsociety.(org)/uploadedFiles/Royal_Society_Content/policy/projects/solar-radiation-governance/DES2391_SRMGI%20report_web.pdf
    Ill just start you off there and you can do a few google searches and find reputable scientific bodies who also confirm this is taking place. Heck China publicly announced that they were able to seed clouds to make it rain recently. talk is cheap do some research. en.wikipedia.(org)/wiki/Cloud_seeding
    theguardian.(com)/environment/2009/sep/23/china-cloud-seeding
    That is for cloud seeding.

    There is also Solar Radiation Management techniques wich are aluminium particles amongs other things.

    • CDR or carbon dioxide removal: activities that aim to directly remove CO2 from the atmosphere
    • SRM or solar radiation management: activities that aim to direct a higher fraction of incoming solar radiation back
    into space before it is absorbed by the earth’s surface. In technical terms this is called increasing the earth’s
    “albedo”.

  • Riggsfoutz

    It is an ironic mark of peculiar ignorance for someone to think they understand things like ‘chemtrails’ when the chemistry of simple water is foreign to them. Let alone any hint of understanding of carbon chemistry.
    In reality, anyone, stupid or otherwise, has experienced the cold/warm zones in the air when riding thru a forest or even a city on a bike or motorcycle. Air is not all the same temperature. Soem trails last longer because the vapor freezes and is essentially snow. Some evaporate and disperse quickly because it is just fog. Some jets that seem to be at the same altitude, and one leaves a trail but the other does not, are actually flying in different thermoclines, a fancy word for layers in the air that are at different temperatures.
    Driving in North Dakota or Alaska will tell you that some cars leave vapor more than others. A jet engine made in 1980 will leave a different trail than one built in 2011.
    I feel truly sorry for those who are not bright enough to figure these things out on their own. There are no Snowden documents listed above because there are none. His ‘testimony’ is fabricated.
    Worry about something like getting a job or getting some exercise, or maybe learn some real science so stupid people won’t seem so smart to you.

    Steven R Foutz PhD MD. Guess that makes me one of ‘them’?

    • SC

      Well, you still sound stupid to me. Mostly just ignorant by the fact that you think you understand what they are doing. However, unless you are among them, you never truly know the truth, from either side. But by being ignorant as you are, you feed the government, these companies and others bull shit thinking that everyone in the world just does not care. In fact, most of us have jobs, look as Snowden for example, he accomplished more in his short life than you ever could in yours. Just because you cannot see this stuff does not mean it is not there. It just means you are pretending it isn’t. Having a PhD does not make you the smartest person, being aware of our faults and down falls, that is what creates intelligence.

      • Ross

        Hmmm. You do know that this is a faux news site, and that the chemtrails meme has transmogrified into a hoax, and therefore that Snowden could not possibly have uncovered “shocking truth behind chemtrails”.
        The trails are contrails. Really, they are. All will be revealed shortly, or it may take another 15 years.

  • Ross

    Lee Harrison, Can you chill a bit? Long enough to give a link or something to where you say, “It has been proven that they are NOT … PASSENGER PLANES.” Pretty much all, yes all, of the close up video and still photos I have seen of trailing planes show that they ARE passenger planes, or freight.
    Again, chill. The trails are actually contrails.

    • Lee Harrison

      CONtrails go away. CHEMtrails don’t you can see the difference when the CHEMtrails start to spread out blanketing the Earth blocking the sun OR magnifying it! It’s poisonous when it falls to Earth! Do you want to breathe ALUMINUM NANOPARTICLES and ANY OF THE OTHER POISONS that is being force upon us? Any Dumb Ass should know that you do not fuck with the air we breath! Our water is not fucking safe to drink where the spray is or has been going on! Down wind perhaps! If the Dumb Asses called Geoengineers(DUMBASSES WITH TITLES) have enough sense, then they know where the wind is blowing, how fast, and how long it’ll take before that stuff reaches Earth. For that they know who is going to be breathing it!! IF IT’S POISON IT’S TERROR!! Why the fuck do they have to keep it “under wraps”? Because they know that the shit is bad for you!
      And then with these cold fronts and warm fronts, with the whether and all, the dumbass Geoengineers who want to play GOD! But yet, KILLING PEOPLE!! They are causing the storms to be more stronger and more isolated at the same time causing “BIBLICAL RAINFALLS” AND FLOODS THAT DEVASTATES THE LAND WHILE DROWNING PEOPLE! Just look at Colorado!, Downwind from them damn CHEMtrails! It was like the storm couldn’t go anywhere!! People are dead!! NASA acknowledges CHEMtrails, you need to also…

      • Ross

        I am an affirmer! I affirm that the trails are contrails. When the air the plane is flying through has a high Relative humidity, the trails cannot dissipate – there is already too much moisture in the air. Pretty basic thermodynamics here.

        • Lee Harrison

          If they are spraying you with poison, it is terror!! They WILL start to fall out of the sky when shot down!!! Plain talk and easy to understand!! I will fight for the air my Grandson breathes to not have poisons in it! The shit is going to fucking stop! Mark my words! Who ever is the God Damn piece of shit that wants to spray poisons into the air and thinks that it is just a okey can personally get my hands around their fucking necks!!!

          • Ross

            Lee, this is crazy-talk. They are NOT spraying you with poison. The trails are condensation trails – ice clouds. Sheesh!

          • Lee Harrison

            Go to YOUTUBE and type this: “Michelle Obama & Chemtrails”. Hell just type CHEMTRAILS. CONtrails go away. When CHEMtrails are going on it looks like a tic tac toe sign and they suddenly stop and start back spraying. Its not CONtrails learn the difference, do your research, and go hunting for some dumb asses with the titles of Geoengineers. When the hunt is over and you found the mother fuckers who think that it is okey to poison the air that we breathe then put a bullet between their eyes! If you don’t have the guts, than i do! Like i said, i will fight’em! Dig a hole and place’em in it! FOR ALL YOU DUMB ASS GEOENGINEERS WHO ARE POISONING THE AIR, BEST YOU BELIEVE YOU HAVE IT COMING!!

          • pete kiley

            I understand your anger Lee, My story of pesticide poisoning from a NZ Vineyard is a 17 years long living nightmare. Can I post you a free CD of our book. At the moment the 4 of us as a family get 25% profits each from book sales, pity ive only sold 12 books in 3 years as the company publishme never advertised it on there monthly internet newsletter or on their carousel type web-site, publishme only advertised the book on page 2 of the autobiography section of their site. Anyone who can help me get either a USA or UK publisher for our book will get 20% profits from all sales of our books. Im also open to suggestions for a new title for my book, and to shorten the book if needs be.

        • You might be better to drop it. Science seems to be beyond Lee’s comprehension.

        • Josh

          Ross. I understand your think it’s all ice clouds… but it’s not. I better got an understanding personally after seeing the “contrail/chemtrail” debates..but I didn’t fully research into it until an old neighbor of mine confirmed that he’s seen these planes come in for repair that had the aresol sprayers attached to them (works for a major airline). He stated it was for “cloud seeding for an outside government funded project” . That was enough to make me do my research and what I’ve found is staggering. While the “conspiracy theorists” go to the extreme with this debate.. They have a point. I urge you to read these.

          http://www.un.org/esa/subindex/qb15.htm

          Here’s the patent.

          http://www.google.com/patents/US5003186

          I know “chemtrails” are real. It’s no debate. My eyes don’t lie. My government however is proven to be the biggest liar in my life. I won’t put my blinders on… But it’s a free country and you are free to do so. My eyes are the truth. My experiences are the truth. The television and public opinion aren’t always accurate and I challenge you to read every line of everything to do with geoengineering before you try to discredit a twoofer ;)

          • Ross Marsden

            Thanks Josh. Could you put me in tough with your “old neighbor” who “works for a major airline”? I would like him to clarify a few things about your story.
            The first link you gave is about Pollution. Are you saying it was that link about pollution that tipped you towards the chemtrail belief.
            The second link to the chemtrailer’s favorite patent… There are quite a few problems with the Stratospheric Welsbach idea. First these trails we see are in the upper troposphere, not the stratosphere, so the supposed chemtrailers are doing it in all the wrong places if they are relying on that patent for their operation. Second, no one is going to knowingly put any kind of metallic particles into the jet fuel. Severe engine damage would be the result. Third, an increase in atmospheric aerosols would have been detected by now by those who monitor that, and no increase has been detected.
            The trails are contrails, and Snowdon has not in fact said anything about them.

          • Don’t do it, Josh. This man is a double agent hunting for leakers. He will find your old neighbor who leaked this valuable information so we may live in a better society. A pure society.

            I am scared to imagine what might happen if his anonymity was broken now.

          • Ross

            I don’t want his name, and I am in another country about 7 time zones away! I simply what some more details to see if the story checks out or if it is someone’s fantasy or a misunderstanding.

          • pete kiley

            Hello Josh. Can I post you a free CD of our book. At the moment the 4 of us as a family get 25% profits each from book sales, pity ive only sold 12 books in 3 years as the company publishme never advertised it on there monthly internet newsletter or on their carousel type web-site, publishme only advertised the book on page 2 of the autobiography section of their site. Anyone who can help me get either a USA or UK publisher for our book will get 20% profits from all sales of our books. Im also open to suggestions for a new title for my book, and to shorten the book if needs be.

        • Earl

          In fact aviation traffic has increased by 30% in the last 10 years alone… and those 10 years have been the hottest on record globally, which means the atmosphere is already carrying about 6% more moisture (hence all the extreme weather events), and behold more ‘contrails’. Keep it up Ross… Amazing how many people have fallen for this one… I guess people will believe whatever they want to believe, even when they are told it is a spoof (some will go on to spread it on FB even after they know it’s a spoof).

          • Ross Marsden

            Thanks Earl. We should collaborate. Find me in Twitter.

          • pete kiley

            Hello Ross. Can I post you a free CD of our book. At the moment the 4 of us as a family get 25% profits each from book sales, pity ive only sold 12 books in 3 years as the company PublishMe never advertised it on there monthly internet newsletter or on their carousel type web-site, PublishMe only advertised the book on page 2 of the autobiography section of their site. Anyone who can help me get either a USA or UK publisher for our book will get 20% profits from all sales of our books. Im also open to suggestions for a new title for my book, and to shorten the book if needs be.

  • Sheri

    Do your own test. Put a clean container (preferably glass) of clean water outside on a day when they are spraying. Watch the surface of the water after it’s been sitting there for awhile. The surface will become metallic and will look like molten silver. I’ve done this with water from four different towns in our area and the results were the same.
    This stuff is getting into our soils, water supplies and ‘us’ then there is a problem. No wonder Monsanto has gained so much ground with their GMO seeds…….. they are made to grow in the tainted soils.

    • Lee Harrison

      Our Air and Our Water that we breath and drink is Sacred given from GOD! Who are we to screw it up! If there is anything worth fighting for it is the air your children breath!! Show me the mother who is responsible other than John Holdren(Chief Scientific Advisor to Barack Obama), He believes it is O.K. to spray you with poison! Who ever responsible i will fight them and ring their necks!! Lead was once thought to be O.K. to put into paint at one point!! Until later they woke the fuck up! It has been proven to be bad!! And if they don’t stop treat it as a terror attack and shoot the mother fucker out of the sky!!! It has been proven that they are NOT and i say again NOT PASSENGER PLANES. SHOOT’M DOWN!!! IF IT’S POISON IT’S TERROR!!

      • Josh

        Don’t be silly. You shoot down or try to shoot down a plane… You’re not doing your family any justice other than seeing them through glass the rest of your life. Not the way to go after the problem.

    • Josh

      To back up your claim.. A young girl (I think you can find this on youtube) send in a rain water sample to a lab and came back with extremely odd high levels of aluminum and barium. Same from the soil sample she also took. Truth is right there. :)

    • pete kiley

      Very interesting Sheri. Thanks for sharing it. Can I post you a free CD of our book. At the moment the 4 of us as a family get 25% profits each from book sales, pity ive only sold 12 books in 3 years as the company publishme never advertised it on there monthly internet newsletter or on their carousel type web-site, publishme only advertised the book on page 2 of the autobiography section of their site. Anyone who can help me get either a USA or UK publisher for our book will get 20% profits from all sales of our books. Im also open to suggestions for a new title for my book, and to shorten the book if needs be.

  • nobody

    Look this is not a new idea! It is called cloud seeding! plenty of research and studies available on the subject. Instead of posting or replying with insults post supportive information that supports your point of view! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincent_Schaefer

  • jim

    hahahahaha blind blind blind leading the blind… I guess everyone wants to believe it can’t happen here no way could this happen here.. I bet if it was gun related you all would be living breathing the story.. hahahahahaha

  • Gib Melson

    This is a satire news site :) :)
    Dont people reed some shit before posting & linking all over forums, FB and shit like that?!God damn, im trying to get people interested in geoenginering and all that bad shit and just when one or two of them seems to gain an interest in it you can bet some ass hole posted a link to news where Snowden speaks out about Chemtrails and so on here at this fuc…. site and the dude I have been working on for two weeks just to get him stop laughing as a reflex upon hearing the word chemtrails surfs in to read the fantastic article and finds just below that one, another article in which Snowden reveals who God really is, where he lives and what kind of jobb he has. And on top of all that, there is a photo of God to se and he kinda looks like a douchebag. Yippie di doda… fuck fuck fuckillifuck there whent all that time and efort down the drain and uggly little kids stand outside my window all night singing
    ” TINFOIL HAT tinfoil hat… hat hat HAT TINFOIL Haaaaaat foil foilfoil foil foil tinfoil hat a whole week.
    But it was kinda funny to read all the deadly serious comments about articles here that the lesser gifted freaks from generation fluoride wasted time on by wrighting and reading alot of comedy without even realizing that it is just comedy….

  • Living in a Chemtrail world

    Look idiots. That’s it Just LOOK!!!
    I am itchy I am sneezing I am bitchy and feel like Crap BEFORE I even look outside abd I KNOW they are spraying that day.
    Do Your Research!!!!

    Or how about this… Grab a metal detector go see Just what you find.

    Any negative comments on this means you must Love Satan!

    Proof is in your hands and before your eyes
    Wake The Fuk Up!!!!!!

    • Tommy

      If posting negative comments on an obviously satirical article means we “love satan”, I don’t think we’re the ones that need to wake up. You, apparently, believe in fairy tales.

  • Darren

    Sorry, “Grievous sores”, I just read the bottom half of your article. Interesting…

  • Darren

    Here’s a whistle blower for you “Grievous sores”.
    Kristen Meghan, former Air Force Industrial Hygienist / Environmental Specialist gave a ground breaking presentation of what she had discovered about chemicals known to be in Chemtrails while serving her Country. Furthermore, she explains why she left the military after an attempt to silence her from speaking out on employee exposures from industrial sanding operations. This BRAVE young lady has put her livelihood / life on the line for us. http://youtu.be/ijlY6qgnv-s

  • Grievous sores

    I am so sick and f*****g tired of these articles from these “experts” about how some super-secretive orgs are employing some human pilots to fly around the world and spray the air with airosals (the pics of the supposed insides of a passenger jet rigged with tanks of chemicals ready for deployment no withstanding). Any whistle blowers out there??? Surely, as with any conspiracy, a whistleblower comes forth eventually.
    People like Alex Jones, Jeff Rense will constantly drill into their listeners minds that all it is is the govt flying their planes out there and spraying the chemicals.
    Does anyone ever consider, while studying the movement and direction of the “jets”, that these “jets” seemingly take off from nowhere, AND fly into nowhere? Closer observation reveals that these supposed jets are quite transparent up there. And they are quite distorted as well.
    Does anyone see where I’m going with this?
    Also take into account the oddly shaped clouds which simple water vapor cannot create. Strange angular clouds and also the trails which take on outer worldly shapes. And dont gloss over the increasing evidence of orbs and nano particles which can be spotted time to time. You all must free up your limited minds out of your puny lil box and realize just how deep this really is. We are not talking something done by humans or even within the confines of this reality.

    • anon

      hi—well if your talking about something alien —I would agree as well—the tech on this is an advance delivery system of a polymerized biofilm that reprograms the dna—I don’t believe this article at all that the usa and canada are concerned with protecting there weather is a bit of a farce—–with the 43 components in the chem trails thorium-plutonium-uranium-barium-aluminum-silica-nanometals -silver and gold- titanium dioxide–blood-fungi-bacteria-mold-virus–a plethora of things that naturally do not occur—and would appear to attack the genome of the planet —
      anon

    • frankreynolds

      Yes. I see where you are going with it. And I agree. It’s much more sinister. It’s Satanic. No government could possibly fund such a project.

  • UnFknBlvbl

    For those of you that don’t believe take a look at these websites and do your own research for yourself. Chemtrails, FEMA Camps, Seismic Propagation, Food Shortages, Natural Disasters, Disease, Depopulation, Monsanto, it’s all there in black and white. Check out some of the “Executive Orders” in the Federal Register just waiting for a U.S. President to declare Martial Law… again!

    http://dtic.mil/dtic click “multisearch”
    http://nixon.archives.gov/virtuallibrary/documents/nssm/nssm_200.pdf
    sustainabledevelopment.un.org/content/documents/Agenda21.pdf

    Don’t forget the “Universal Declaration of Human Rights”.

  • will byrne

    so to all those suit and tie bitches who have brushed me off as a fringe element, the truth is coming out about the so called conspiracies theroies I and many others have been warning about. Well run down to starbucks for your latte and head off to you bullshit job that does not care about you or your family and take a minute to, think about the lambs before the slaughter (you not ewe) so many sheeple gave up thinking for a paycheck and an illusion of security. The .01% does give a damn about you, as far as they are concerned you are using their vital resources. Don’t think your just gonna head down to costa rica and live off the land cause the native people are just waiting to mash you up and take your stuff. If you are not awake now to these as realities then it is probably best you stay asleep

  • ryan b

    WTF? Did I see someone say that global warming wasn’t even real? Ha! Pull your head out! This is totally real! Why don’t you do own damn research before you come out and start calling everyone liars! All the info on geoengineering is so easy to get its nit even a joke. Just type geoengineering into Google and see what happens! Look up the patents. Watch YouTube! And just look up? Oh ya know of David Keith!? Do your own damn research! Its easy. You apparently have enough free time if your here calling us liars!

  • Most people are not even aware of what’s going on.. and won’t be until it’s to late and their on a leash with no where to go. It’s amazing how the masses are a sleep and refuse to wake up.

    • Art

      Yeap! it must be the prozac(fluoroide) in the water and the quem in the air!

    • Ross Marsden

      So why don’t you give us a quick overview of what you think is “going on”? Let’s see how insightful you actually are.

      • nobody

        I have a question for you Ross. What don’t you think is “going on”. what is your point of view on people lust for power? what history have you read that shows the lust for power has shown positive results? As this is what this article is about essentially. Do you believe that people who are in high power positions always do the right thing? As the mythbusters would say this Chemtrail aka Cloud Seeding is a fact. Plausible if the question was: Is cloud seeding used to control population. Most people have not done research Ross, but they base their opinions on gossip from those that they trust to give true information. The problem is that we have examples in history of leaders steering the country in which they govern in the wrong direction. To say that this is not a valid truth today would not be accurate. NO country is immune to weakness of man! Technology allows so many positive things to occur and can also cause so many destructive things to occur.

        • Ross Marsden

          For a start there is no “chemtrails” going on. And Cloud Seeding is not “chemtrails” either, so that is not a fact. That there are examples in history of leaders doing bad things does not imply that leaders are doing bad things now. That does not follow. Leaders may well be doing bad things, but history has nothing to do with it. Yes, today’s technology can do great things, but it has not produced any evidence that there is an ongoing spraying program such as the chemtrails meme conveys.

  • Petition: National Secretariat of Indigenous Peoples.
    In the future your grandchildren for search in GOOGLE. They will ask you: – Oh! Grandpa, why do not you realize that slow extermination of the Indians? And your conscience will feel bitter taste to know that the Indians for over 500 years has suffered injustice, violence and oppression and other brutalities. Brazil today, has become an example of democracy in Latin America. But this scourge persists concrete we denigrate as Developed Nation. Therefore, creation of a National Secretariat of Indigenous Peoples. http://www.avaaz.org/po/petition/Secretaria_Nacional_dos_Povos_Indigenas/?fgsJddb&pv

  • I agree, there should be a bit more evidence actually to back up some of the claims.. of course on the internet, if it’s posted, it’s true :)

  • niko

    Snowden should proof this with substantial evidence and if he can/does; the hell will break loose…

    • I have seen some of them God Damn Chemtrails over Atlanta Georgia during the time when California was warning people in Georgia about them! CONtrails from airplanes go away but CHEMtrails don’t. They spread out and blanket the earth hiding the earth from the sun. They cause severe whether, very bad storms with floods. People have fucking died! Our water and soil is being tested where chemtrails were going on and the shit is not good, it’s been proven that Aluminium bromide NanoParticles and other bad chemicals are being sprayed on us!! But mostly, it is poison from a stupid mad scientist who doesn’t realise that our Water and our Air is nothing to fucking play with and i would like to get my hands on the motherfucker who is responsible. If you see a airplane spraying the poison mist in a fucking tic-tac-toe figure, then you need to call someone! Preferably someone who can shoot it down in self defense! For that our AIR and WATER is SACRED!!!!

  • I stopped getting the flu shot about 5 years ago. But true, they will start with the masses of dumbasses and control them first.

  • Michele

    Btw, keep being guinea pigs by getting your vaccines…especially the flu vaccine every year. Depopulation begins with the dumbest amongst us!

  • This is just utter bullshit if you ask me. Oh well.

  • Jerry Briggs

    Snowden is a CIA opperative. If you think otherwise then have some more LSD. If he wasn’t he would be dead. They would find someone in Russia to snuff his ass. Right now he is creating panic in America with these bogus fear mongering stories. He is in a position where he is the mouthpiece of the CIA or FBI. Whatever he says people will believe. The NSA spying on us was nothing new. Everyone knows that.

    Someone who never graduated High School is capable of all this..Come on..It’s a physch op..

  • Richard Formo

    What the hell’s the matter with you people ? If you don’t know the difference between a con trail and a chem trail,then,you should get enlightened on the subject ! This ain’t no joke ! We’re in “deep shit” ! A condensation trail doesn’t criss cross the sky for hundreds of miles,stupid ! It dissipates in a few seconds,not hours of continuous bombardment of aluminum dioxide,selenium and another that I can’t recall,at the moment. We,ALL,should be Very aware of what is going on,instead of being blinded by our material possessions,etc ! Get your heads out of your asses and SEE !!

    • Ross Marsden

      “A condensation trail doesn’t criss cross the sky for hundreds of miles,stupid ! It dissipates in a few seconds” No, that is where you are wrong. Check this out…
      “Global Modeling Of The Contrail And Contrail Cirrus Climate Impact”
      http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/pdf/10.1175/2009BAMS2656.1
      Page 479 (first page)
      Column 1 about contrails –
      Linear contrails transform into irregularly shaped ice clouds (contrail cirrus) and may form cloud clusters in favorable meteorological conditions, occasionally covering large horizontal areas extending up to 100,000 km2
      Column 2 formation –
      Contrails form and persist in air that is ice saturated, whereas natural cirrus usually requires high ice supersaturation to form (Jensen et al. 2001). This difference implies that in a substantial fraction of the upper troposphere contrail cirrus can persist in supersaturated air that is cloud free, thus increasing high cloud coverage.

  • Lee Free

    Wow, do they really expect intelligent people to believe in this article? lol…

  • Dave J

    GLOBAL WARMING IS A HOAX!!!!! WTF is going on here. Chemtrails have NOTHING to do with climate change. They have everything to do with death and population control!!!

  • Native Thinker

    Ahahahahahhahhah… never felt so hard from my chair!
    I love you, comedians XD

  • Firebird

    this looks sooooo much like disinfo to me. If Snowden was going to release this sort of info why do it here like this ????
    If he was going to do it here like this why do it in such an undocumented sensationalist and fear and rage producing manner ????
    Please answer that Chroniclers… until then… You are most likely lying.

  • Daniel.C

    How about a discussion on the poisons being dropped over the whole echo system that all life forms digest??

  • Anonymous

    Has anyone else seen this stuff?

  • harry genitals

    my scrotum itches

  • dave

    Wow, this is benevolent? do we really need those poisonous chemtrails killing everything around to save the world? this makes absolutely no sense!
    Open your eyes to shocking documentaries like “The Nebula 3″ (there are part 1 and 2, this opens your eyes right there:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFPdw_wFBHs

  • I’m not sure if I believe this or not, but hey, I’m sure worse things are being done without our knowledge I’m sure. Just crazy..

  • The shocking truth is that this entire article is a blatant lie!

    I will be sure to inform my readers of the pile of tripe that INTERNET CHRONICLE composes and passes off as “truth.”

  • OK When the Olympics were held in China they sprayed the skies to cause it to rain to get rid of some of China’s pollution because Runners couldn’t breathe in that shit. It was on CNN. Millions saw it… Now they are doing the same over the USA & everyone starts yelling conspiracy theory? Are people really that dumb? I don’t think so. They are doing it, they are using OUR tax dollars to poison air water & land. They will keep it up til they destroy the earth & themselves & no one wants to believe it is true? Look it up.
    USA Today
    http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/weather/research/2008-02-29-china-weather_N.htm
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_seeding

    People wake up smell the coffee & READ the fact is they can do it so they do.

  • Gak

    This article is as fake as they come… this is just another bit of “miss-information” to keep us all blinded from the real truth. Chem trails are real, but this story is complete & utter B011ox. Try the “UKColumn.org” if you want factually correct & evidence based news. Snowden’s being used & most of what you’ll find about him is manufactured dribble, do your research well folks, don’t get led astray!

    • Ross Marsden

      Gak, I like the way you use “Chem trails are real” and “… do your research well folks, don’t get led astray!” together like that in the same paragraph. Do you understand irony? The trails sometimes called “chemtrails” are actually persistent contrails; inadvertent mad-made clouds.

      • MOT

        well…Ross what he is saying is that hero/traitor guy didnt release anything regarding the chemtrail….not that chemtrails arent real – they are…just didnt come from Snowden that’s all. ;0)

        • Ross Marsden

          Yes, I know, and thanks for clearing that up for the other folks. My point is that chemtrails are a mis-identification of something fairly benign, and that people should not be fooled into accepting some huge fabrication of fear mongering bullshit. Be careful out there.

      • dinglebarry

        Ross, why dont you do all us intelligent people a favor a stfu with your disinfo shet. They are called chemtrails for a reason, so why dont YOU figure out why.

      • Delmar

        Ross is correct! They are vapor trails! You see more of them when it’s more humid.

        • Ross Marsden

          Erm… they are _condensation_ trails. Water vapor, you will recall from high school science, is invisible. The term “Vapor trails” has a certain historical gravitas, but it is technically incorrect.
          Thank you, Delmar. Hi5!

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  • aap

    Why is this article not in the mainstream media? And PRISM is in the media?

    Quess that PRISM wasn’t a secret. Everybody know that the governments are spying on us. But chemtrails? Wow.. that’s a real secret!

  • Kerstin

    We do know that the US just now is making everything it can to discredit Snowdon. Is this an article aimed at making him look like all these conspiracy theorists who have been writing about these chem trails for years, in order to convince us that Snowdon is nothing more than one of these jerks?

  • marc

    its hard for us lot that have a qualification in university of life, the ppl that are to blame are the thick twats that think it’ll all be ok, the same degenerates that think cancer has no cure, WAKE UP u Hypnotized idiots it wont be ok thanks to u! i recon 10 years and counting :( were fucked and ban me from the site please because its a dis info site than needs to be shut down

  • marc

    SNOWDENS A FAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • S Henry

    Now we know for sure that this guy is being used as another lame distraction. Climate control my ass. LOL OMG after all this time he says what they have been saying and lying about? He is being used as a pawn in their game again, he aint legit this moron and I was wondering if so and this article proves it to be so. LOSERS How many professionals and whistleblowers and pilots have to admit that they are using them to kill us off and poison us as a part of depopulation and then this idiot comes with this crap. hahaha

    • Anonymous

      U should know that anything seen coming out of a planes emissions need to be at best 28k feet up, these sights are no more than 4000ft up and as i live next to an airport watching planes 600ft up with equipment attached to the wings, hoses, jets etc. and sometimes still spraying!!, also what about when the trail suddenly stops in mid air and starts up again, is that the pilot turning the engines off??
      by cooling the planet?? what they’re actually doing is bringing on the venus affect, its like keeping the car windows shut on a hot day, soon the sun will go out of control. well said s henry, if this nsa bod was genuine they wd gag the media as per, it’s all a game and we’re being played

  • Mike

    Its no joke .

    Its something decided by the royal society Neo aristocrats.

  • doug

    sorry you got me

    This is a poe Joke :-)

    Derp !!! Good one I thought you were serious

  • doug

    WTF “The most dangerous thing is that although chemtrails are keeping the climate of the U.S. reasonably stable, citizens are bombarded every day with an invisible rain of carbon-laden molecules, and the effect on health is totally unknown.” ”

    The world is trying desperately to remove carbon CO2 from the atmosphere
    Contrails are cooling the earth by reflecting light and heat back into space
    They are made of ice crystals H2O they have no carbon in them other than some burnt jet fuel exhausts.

    Please do not mix the real and proven dangers with imaginary ones.

  • sn

    Total Stupidity. Lets all go nuts trying to combat something that isn’t real.

  • It arrived on facebook too :) translated in italian, people believe it’s true! GREAT JOB! Italy Loves Chronicle.SU now! At least, I do! <3

    http://www.facebook.com/salvatore.previti/posts/3226691764070?comment_id=2442997

  • Jeff

    Why publish stories you made up? You are part of the worlds problems..

  • John

    Based on where I found the link to this article, and how it was discussed. And also reading the comments posted on here, I still can’t believe how fucking stupid people are. Well done Chronicle.

  • Zo

    This whole website is made by those asshole NSA pricks to get down Snowden. Nothing is true on it!

  • s. burks

    This is not a true article….look it up.

  • Simon Grant

    I’ve been advising all my clients to rid their portfolio of anything related to the petroleum industry. When the studies come in regarding the carcinogenic nature of these climate programs, the ensuing suing is going to devastate the value of those implicated fuel companies.

  • Helga Hopkins

    Now we have another proof of chemtrails. Not only America is bombarded but almost all western countries. Its time to come together and stand up people.

  • Sumtin Tusae

    Tried Googling “muad’did”. 2nd auto complete under the search box is “muad’dib jihad”. Go figure.

  • Dave

    Snowden is a hero!

  • Japer

    Snowden is snowing us again! This clown is a traitor who “has no regrets” and therefore no rights. Drone the bastard!

  • Art

    Moronics comments based on fear and ignorance..quem trails are plain to see to anyone with some brains left in their heads! jus look up in the skies you morons who don’t believe in anything but football and beer!!

  • steve

    I’ll finish reading this when I’ve stopped flying my pet pig to Atlantis.

  • Jack

    More whacky yawnsense coming from the mouths of fools and deluded basement dwelling masturbaters. Snowden is a lying sack of shit and a traitor to boot. Why this asshat is given any credence is beyond me and sort of sick.

    • Cass

      How is he a traitor if he’s lying? You need to wake up and stop blindly believing everything your government tells you. It’s sad to this people like Snowden are risking persecution in an attempt to inform citizens who are too stubborn and ignorant to care.

  • bob rob

    What a bunch of BS

  • marc

    just one other thing, u all should realise this is a multipurpose exercise, 2 other possibility’s are
    1. is the use of strontium turning what we see i.e the sky into 1 big projection screen, as strontium is the key material in holographic images, false flag incident maybe?
    2. keeping us how they want us, to stop us becoming beings that nature intended (google 3rd Strand dna and pineal gland)?

  • marc

    1 big give away is the height the planes wd need to be for anything that the engine produces to be seen, some of these planes are only 3000 ft up, BULL

  • marc

    David and “roaches” comment is spot on!, damage limitation-disinformation or what!

  • i put up a link about this stuff from what i considered to be a somewhat trustworthy site. then i wondered if snowden really said this, so i followed the quote all the way back to here where it dead ended. only thing that bothers me is how many people out there thought it was real news. i have people counting on me to give them real news and i don’t want to let them down is all. this is one that got by me but i think its the first one to do so in a year but i still feel badly for it.

    every action we take in life affects others no matter how big or small. each one of us is the pebble in the pond. how you will be remembered for the ripples you leave behind matters in this life and the one to come. I believe this website and its writers have great potential to change the world for good if they only embrace it.

    you don’t need to make things up to get attention. just tell the truth, its a revolutionary act these days. god bless

    http://godfreydaily.wordpress.com/2013/05/15/they-are-watching-and-listing/

  • S

    How many of you believe the Pope named Snowden as the Messiah? That is the next story under the chem trail hoax. Learn to recognize satire, because you are making yourselves look foolish

  • Kirsty

    I do believe this information however I think that it’s prudent these days to have the papers/documents that show this statement to be true. We can’t take anything at face value these days.

  • “I am only revealing this program because there is no oversight in the scientific community, no public discussion, and little concern for the side-effects which are well known only to a few privileged people interested in continuing the decades-long chemtrail program in secret.”

    I can’t find this quote from Snowden anywhere. If you you have a youtube video of him saying it please show me. or a link of where you got this info from. i feel like ive let my readers down by posting this story which appears to be nothing more than rumor. thanks

  • David

    Chemtrails are for multiple reasons.

    #1 is population mind control, they contain mind altering drugs.

    #2 is for parasitic infestation of peoples with morgellons, additionally they contain blood borne pathogens.

    #3 is to make people sick and kill off elderly, youth, and certain populations with high concentrations of barium.

    #4 is to manipulate the weather via HAARP because they contain aluminum.

    Chemtrails can produce various effects. They are illegal to spray, and any high court of law can prosecute those in the military who are responsible if enough evidence is brought out against them.

    Wake Up. Look Up. Spread the news. You are all being sprayed like roaches!

    • Doctor of Homeopathic Medicine

      I Agree David! They have been spraying the whole globe for many centuries. It is the reason for our out of control weather. They have a patent on the sky!!!! Check out “Death in the Air”. This is real and happening. Chemtrails are not from commercial airlines, but from other military planes. It is very hard to get any information on it due to it’s secrecy. Pay attention people. Wake up.

  • A. Sociale

    Took me a while to clean up the projectile vomit off my keyboard do i can type this. What kinda horsecrap is this? Ive been studying the chemtrail agenda for OVER A DECADE and anyone in my camp can tell you, Snowden’s assertions in this regard are PATENTLY FALSE. This should only serve to show what Ive long suspected, and raised as the first of likely many smoking guns to show that Snowden is merely just another controlled opposition disinfo douche like Assange, probably working for Israel.

  • pleas remove the trolls

    site Editor remove the trolls and their energy and intelligence splitting … with no info on the subject ,agents that have had too much evil power already. These trolls have had too much space in all forums for too long and destroyed peoples common sense and confused what has been going on…stop them!!!
    Do not give them 1 more inch of space.
    People are here to share info knowledge and concern, not to be offended and disgraced and sidetracked.

  • Fenria

    You people who don’t believe that chemtrailing is happening are the true retards here. We watch them spray their grids almost everyday here in northern California. Tell me, why would a bunch of passenger planes fly in a tight grid? Just to make pretty designs with their exhaust?

    This isn’t even passenger planes up there, it’s small aircraft with the express purpose of spraying. You people just want to believe everything that the government tells you because it’s the easy way out, requires substantially less thinking, and sheep hate to think.

  • Peter of Rome

    Total Dis Info Mind Op Crap… Now ‘they’ will release all manner of lies and say… “Hey… here is the latest thing from Snowden”… the Chemtrails are NOT benevolent…

  • ChemtrailAwarenessGermany

    And what about EUROPE? They’re spraying us here in Germany, France, United Kingdom, Poland, Netherlands, Belgium……. day by day with those fu+++ing chems, our childs learn that there are clouds that look like big serpents. What do we have to do with your so called Geo Engineering? WE DON’T WANT CHEMS!!!!!

  • anon

    AGW is bullshit, its been used to control peoples lives through ‘green taxation’- Australian MP goes public over fake global warming – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-DeFijUOk4. we all know the endless aerosol spraying is causing harm to populations, this bbc article confirms people are dying from air pollution http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-23231194 Their spraying weakens peoples immune system, blocking out the sun also weakens the immune system through vitamin D deficiency.

  • Anonymous

    look at all these trollers leaving comments about how this is fake. Not one person claiming this was fake actually left a legitimate reason or proof as to why this is fake. You simply found some pathetic manner to degrade the concept in a childish attempt to sway opinion. Vague and directionless responses like these can – in a lot of cases – be attributed to computer trolling programs. Programs which are designed to look like actual persons – but are in fact – a product of government funded intelligence efforts to control or manipulate public opinion. (Hackers and programmers paid to commit cyber terrorism while “preventing cyber terrorism”)In these cases they’re goal is simple – find articles like this and discredit the author and the information it provides. Doing so – without ever actually providing any proof as to why. If enough people voice a certain opinion on a specific “hot” topic – how long before you feel the same way so as to be accepted by the heard? No one wants to be labeled a “radical”. This is yet another pathetic federal attack on our freedoms. The facts here are far from fake – and anyone who says otherwise – obviously lacks the general capacity to think for themselves and has bought into the same corporate and mainstream propaganda which our televisions and computers violently spew for the consumer driven masses to absorb. The physical evidence is literally right in front of you. It’s simple really – jet fuel vapor dissipates in minutes and in some cases seconds. That’s fucking science! Sooo ….explain the uniform trails of exhaust that ironically cross hatch like a chess board and linger in the upper atmosphere for hours? hmm? FUCKING SHEEP!

  • jj

    This isnt news to us. for people who are even slighty more aware than a glass of water, we know all about HAARP and the chemtrail program. For fuck sake, there are pictures of the chemtrail systems in the plane with the patent number for the geo engineering technology! You should get someone who isnt mentally retarded to write the article next time!

  • jj

    Disinformation. Dont pay attention to this crap.

  • jj

    This is utter and complete BOLLOCKS! This is disinformation and just general shit. Do you think we are stupid? Do you think we will swallow this crap? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha you will have to do better than that! Looks like its written by a child

  • Anne

    what a bullshit! to whom he gave this interview?
    a lot of bla bla and no sources. fuck you

  • Fuck fake news and fuck the creators of this website. You are not helping, but only making things worse for all of us.

  • Darren

    Yet more rubbish that is not true. I’m surprised the Chronicle is letting this crap be published because its creating a very bad name for you…

  • Hsaive

    The one thing that will demonstrate Snowden is NOT an imposter is his video release to confirm the fact that explosives caused the demolition of the Twin Towers and WTC-7. This is the litmus test on Snowden’s credibility.

  • JTurse

    This is disinformation. We know that chemtrails are weapons program.

  • Anonymous

    if global warming is a hoax to promote carbon taxing, chemtrail explanation is bogus.

  • jane

    geoengineeringwatchdotorg so you think chemtrails are made up …go listen and watch the videos and just look at the proof, at least it is getting the subject known to the masses …the poisoning from the so called geo engineering is making people ill, killing plants and trees –poisoning the soil, the aluminium is showing up in testing of water in places of nature, how do you think it is getting there is such high amounts??? people love to bury their heads in the sand don’t they….

  • ScreenJob

    It is such a sad state that our country is in when we have so many people believing this kind of crap. Not that it is not funny as humor to make fun of them, but that they actually believe it just freaks me out! Does anybody else find it humorous that the dude’s name is “Snow” den, I mean considering the “Job” he is currently doing?

  • DIS

    These are sad times, in which disinformation replaces the other disinformation.

  • Typical for governments, they haven’t noticed that whatever little Earth warming did occur for a while, has already ceased years ago. Moreover, they ascribed it to the wrong factor. Other planets, not yet occupied by man, in our solar system, also experienced some warming effects for a while. There, obviously, man’s CO2 production could not be blamed.
    Governments tend to stay on the wrong track, once they have started on it, for a long time and even repeat the same mistakes over and over again. If Chemtrails are a fact, which I still doubt, can governments be as stupid? – then by now there is a vested interest in maintaining them and thus they will go on being produced whether they are needed or not, poisonous or not, because some firms make much money with such government contracts. The worst pollution of human relationships and interactions are caused by territorial governments, which ought to be replaced, as soon as possible, by societies, communities and governance systems of volunteers, none of them with a territorial monopoly. That would, finally, introduce freedom of contract, freedom of association, freedom to experiment in this sphere, which would have positive effects very fast.

  • This is a SATIRICAL news website. Take a look at some of their other stories. It is amazing to me how many people and even sites like aircrap.org are regurgitating this story without verifying it’s authenticity. It would be great if Snowden had really revealed some inside info about chemtrails, but don’t let your desire for vindication cloud your judgement.

    If you are looking for a genuine chemtrail whistle-blower, search “USAF Environmental Specialist Blows Whistle On Air Force” on YouTube. Also see Kristen’s video “I am who I claim to be…” on the Kristen Meghan YouTube channel, verifying her credentials.

    • Ross

      Oh, come on, Kristen Meghan told us nothing we didn’t already know of the chemtrail story. She didn’t blow any whistle about the chemtrails.

  • Duh

    Come on folks, this is a fake news website!! Read their “About” section. It’s like the Onion, but poses as real. Fuck them.

  • Carl

    Everything I have read so far on this subject barely comes close to what snowden is accerting. Plus we have emperical observations showing us just the opposit. Spawning 1000’s of tornato’s, protecting crops??? I do not think so! Our weather is in no danger anymore than any other part of the world, due mostly to increased sun spot activity. Good ole mother earth knows exactly what to do with here carbon…It puts it back into the soil so things can grow, yes, carbon is a nessitity of all life. Could these creatures really believe there is a danger? Could they really believe that they are doing is good thing?, anyone, through covert compartmentilization techniques can be convinced, especialy the global warming, sky is falling, new age occult…

  • AnonykHRon

    The HAARP project aint no joke many files on this project have been out for long and much info on the chemtrails.

  • John C.

    Sounds like a crappy bullshit. Correct me if I’m wrong. Documents that Snowden published before were much closer to reality than this one. Seems like Mr Snowden running out of files and ready to publish almost anything to keeps him popular in mass media.

  • Anonymous

    What a pile of garbage

  • atomicbazaar

    I saw a video out take of What Are They Spraying On Us? Some scientists in the Shasta area did water and soil analysis and came up with dangerously large amounts of aluminum, barium and strontium.

  • I have a list of the chemical compositions which were published a while ago.
    Here you go: http://www.stopsprayingcalifornia.com/Chemtrail_Documents.php

  • K

    Do you by any chance have the list of byproducts?

  • Dzil

    There are countless millions of American Citizen/victims deliberately targeted directly and indirectly.I curse all parties willingly participating in these programs/ campaigns, they’ve deliberately harm innocent People Families. I pray God will bring swift Justice to their inhumanity, COWARDICE, and betrayal. All victims will be vindicated. The perpetrators know who they are, so do God almighty.

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