MOSCOW, Russia – Edward Snowden, the whistleblower who recently unveiled the NSA’s ubiquitous PRISM wiretapping program, unveiled yet another insidious, citizen-targeting surveillance system Friday afternoon, in a chat with Internet Chronicle reporters.
SAURON, or the Semi-Autonomous Ultra-high-Resolution Orbital Network, is comprised of a series of hundreds of low-orbiting cameras that can make out objects on the ground as small as 1 centimeter in size.
There are so many satellites in this network that they are able to effectively monitor the entire planet’s populated surface without interruption. According to slides Snowden shared, taken from the NSA presentation on SAURON, each spy satellite feeds directly into a data bank so large that it is able to retain the captured imagery indefinitely.
SAURON is also a reference to a villain in J.R.R. Tolkien’s “Lord of the Rings” trilogy, an evil god of discord who appears in the material world as an ever-searching eye.
Snowden, looking as if he hadn’t slept in weeks, spoke with Internet Chronicle reporters in the transit corridor of Moscow’s Sheremetyevo airport. In a near whisper Snowden said, “It is shocking that the U.S. government would appropriate such evil imagery for a so-called security system like this. There is little doubt that this program – I won’t utter the name here – is not concerned with the security of citizens, but rather, it is a bald grab at power for power’s sake.”
119 replies on “Snowden unveils NSA Satellite SAURON Program targeting Citizens”
This Snowden guy is so mentally unstable that I need a lot of back-up info before believing anything he says. Just checkout his tweets and you’ll see what im talking about
And you are foolish enough to believe that it is really Snowden tweeting? Sheesh.
Let’s just say thanks to my job here I have root access to ALL twitter-IP-address logs bound to each user on twitter, and let’s just reveal that Sheremetyevo Airport does a fine job naming its wireless hosts. Hey Edward, can you shed some light for the spies here? For some reason educated people think you’re “ïn hiding” and “secretly using the interwebs”, while the entire planet knows where you are within a radius of about a few 1000 meters.
Unstable? Please clarify… he’s hardly unstable but people are trying to paint him that way… he’s a hero and is likely exhausted and scared. Wake up fool.
Yeah, I bet while he’s running around the whole world with the NSA, the CIA, and the entire USA government all up and down his ass, meanwhile stops and says,
“Oh! I forgot to tweet, today!”
I don’t think he has much time for twitter or facebook, anymore…duh
Your a suck up ,no morals or ethics
A classic Hollywood psy-ops..Our poor hero hasn’t slept in weeks, speaks in whispers…And now onto the Alien kick..hehehe…
His bitch ass is MINE.
give the guy some coffee and a Monster drink
just give the guy some coffee and a Monster drink – Janet
Its a joke right? Surely?
Hundreds of low flying cameras?
The last time I saw a flying camera, I had just thrown a 35mm Nikon w/telescopic lens out of the 10th floor of the Mission valley Marriott’s Window into the parking lot below.
This has been known by many for years.
Do you not recall the video’s from Iraq where satellites were used to hone in on enemies and targets. Do you really think those high flying U.S. Air Force surveillance aircraft are doing this all alone?
He’s a hero!!!
For the clueless, this is satire. SATIRE, people. Look up the definition if you are not sure what `satire` means.
The United States’ seriously out of control surveillance operations puts the national security of every other country at risk. Don’t you think a country like Russia or China would take exception to it and take action to permanently shut it down? There’s your trigger for WW3 and its our country’s fault.
Might be satire but I also believe this administration is up to no good. Even the stinking Egyptian people are trying to get thru to the clueless low info voters.
I agree with both your posts. These people aren’t taught in school what they should have been, and I am thinking it is done on purpose. The govt does not want younger generations to know what they are capable of if things are not taught. This admin is BAD, and it is happening more quickly than I thought it would. If they were to watch “Coming to America 1 & 2”, they would see “who” exactly is being let in our borders. They all think we are mad because of Hispanics. Well, they need to wake up and go find out the truth. When the “day” comes, I will be ready, but I know for a fact they won’t be. No conspiracy theory. Just making those of don’t want to know, that they should be aware of the truth.
Exactly. He who controls the present, controls the past. Who controls the past, controls the future.
History lessons in schools (except it is controlled curriculum)needs to include THE PEOPLE’S HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES by Howard Zinn as well as a study of whistleblowers, who they are, why they decided to expose government corruption, how they helped the world, what they sacrificed to do so….
Also known for many years do not make it right. I am one of those evil facially conservative people. I want small gov. Out of my personal business out of my life period. I want to keep my pay check & everyone to pay the same exact percentage of tax. I like fair tax or Cain’s 9-9-9 plan. I want to abolish the death tax & get rid of that menace Obamacare. The sneaky gov is too big & too corrupt. I loathe communist & I loathe Rhinos
I agree with you wholeheartedly !
Smurfet are you kidding — a Conservative that wants small government out of your personal life when today we have Conservativess almost daily making proposals and laws that entirely invade the private lives of people especially woman with horrendous intrusion worse then any Communist government and the constant efforts to force religion of their choice down every Americans throat. Never have we had a group of politicians more bent on intruding and controlling the personal lives of citizens then this Republican and Tea Party bunch of sold out lackies. If you think forcing ultrasounds on women is less intrusive then scanning of conversations for suspicious words you are brain dead. Be more concerned with the efforts daily by Conservatives to take liberties away and even going to the extent of one Republican Senator saying that they may even have to change the Constitution if they want to win future elections because they cannot seem to win in regular elections. That is the real worry, our American Taliban at work.
I’m not sure if the guy is a hero or a traitor, but I believe he may be a capitalist with limited options, and his circumstances could make him desperate enough to make up stuff.
Do you really think that only the US is spying. For goodness sakes are all you paranoid individuals screaming personnel privacy living in ya ya land. Any fool knows that the minute you logged into the internet, the minute you started using a cell phone , the minute you started having your groceries checked out with a scanner, the minute you started keep all your records in a “cloud” you gave up individual personal privacy. You joined the world to become miscellaneous information available in a random universe. Your neighbor can pay $10 and get access to everything you have done in your life since you were born. All these Countries that are shaking their dirty little fingers at us for “violation of the right of privacy” are monitoring us and their citizens everyday. You cannot detect and prevent terrorist attacks without monitoring and searching like a terrorist to find a terrorist. So if the government wants to monitor my little email wishing a family member Happy Birthday in an effort to keep me safe, have at it, I have nothing to hide. Snowden is just a nobody wanting to be a somebody so he decided to gain his minute in the spotlight he would jeopardize your safety, my safety and all our children’s safety. This disruption in our system of surveillance could cause our security people to miss a clue to a possible upcoming attack and that could result in many deaths. If that happens then this little weasel , this traitor becomes a murderer. As far as I am concerned give him not accolades for wanting to do something heroic for America , label him for what he is a traitor and a scumbag. Let them keep him in So. Ignoring him at this point and depriving him of the publicity he is so hungry for would be the worse fate you could wish on him. Turn off the spotlight and let him rot in the shadows where he belongs.
Patrica, are you kidding me? Have you ever read a history book? Clearly, you have no idea how dictators come to power. Our Founding Fathers gave us a Constitution to protect us from this very thing. It’s liberty or tyranny. As soon as the sheeple willingly give up their liberties they are headed for tyranny. Our Constitution is there to protect us from the very type of gov’t intrusion you are so willing to accept and justify. While you except that the gov’t is okay to read your “wishing a family member Happy Birthday” I wonder how okay you will be when the gov’t tells you you won’t be emailing anybody anything because they no longer allow you to have internet access because you can’t be trusted to communicate anyway outside of the gov’t approved means. And if you don’t believe it’s possible pick up a history book and quit listening exclusively to the msm. One good history book will teach you more about what is going on in this country than you’ll learn from a lifetime of watching NBC, CBS, ABC, MSNBC,CNN,etc.
I agree 9erfan..Patricia, you have a lot to learn..First people have to realize WHY our government wants all of this info and control of American citizens’ lives. They know when you go in there and take a dump, but yet spent 10+ years chasing Bin Laden’s ghost through the mountains of Afghanistan,Iraq,and countless other places that we never even knew of, and they are still marching across the planet trying to gain control of countries.I hate the term conspiracy theory so let me back up and implore you to find “Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth” the website,(also on fb) . A group of over 1900 PROFESSIONAL Architects and Engineers. Just please watch their presentation of the scientific FACTS physics, and evidence.(I started following them a little over a year ago, and they were only 1500 something strong at that time)(Also there are the organizations “Firefighters for 9-11 Truth” “Military Officers for 9-11 Truth” and “World for 9-11 Truth”) So PLEASE listen to what they have to say, and then once you start seeking the answer as to why this war/LIE on terror was FABRICATED . You will then see why the gov is collecting all this info on you and me while trying to disarm us, and the need to destroy personal freedom and rights,and bring down the 1 major force who can stop this global land and power grab, and that force is WE the GOOD PEOPLE of America! Once enough are awake to these facts maybe we can get something done with it.Then you will also realize why they want this Snowden guy silenced…REAL bad.
EXACTLY. Patricia needs to do some research.
My dear boy I know my history, I have probably lived through a lot more history then you have read. I say again without hesitation, when you logged onto the internet world, when you dialed up on the satellite networks you said hey here I am I have become a citizen of the World and the world starting looking at you probably just in passing seconds because you like me are probably too mundane for the computerized system to notice. History, I love and there are just so many versions. Many Dictators by the way came to power with the help of the U.S., including the dictator we executed in Iraq and then tied ourselves up in a ten year war going no place. I keep hearing Obama in violation of the Constitution and have yet to see one solid piece of evidence that supports this nonsense. History is like the bible, which version do you like, which version do you believe.
Patricia, thank you for your post. I think that Americans are so in love with conspiracy theory’s. I attempt to find sources for materials I see on the web. The monitoring may very well be true, but its been going on for a long, long time.
The snooping has dramatically increased over the past year.
Yes, you are totally right on. I agree with everything you said. Someone with a brain that uses it. Good job!
lol so ur brainwashed and delusional
A huge difference between ‘knowing’ and getting verification of extent.
You’re all quiet funny. Use your heads please. The American government doesn’t want a tyranny. It doesn’t need one. It already had more than enough control and power over us. And instead of trying to do anything about it all you people do is come on to the internet and QQ about your conspiracy theories. American’s as a whole suck at the moment. If you don’t like something grow up and do something about it.
You are too intellectual. That is considered unsafe according to 66.3*2.11.1. An ambulance is underway. Questions are illegal.
So sorry, my bad.
And you are foolish if you believe that your seemingly mundane information being collected by the government is not being used to manipulate you AND may very well be used to restrain you or worse if it is “necessary” for the powerful to get what they want.
Don’t be so naïve about your government. They can count the hairs on your ass but they can’t find a way to get everyone a US Citizen identification card for voting and general citizenship?
The earth’s populations have been manipulated by the powerful since the dawn of time. Fear does the job nicely. Fear of terrorists, fear of deities, fear of the IRS, etc. Americans have been duped into thinking they are more free than the rest of the world and it simply is not true. Laboring under the delusion that our government gives a damn about anything other than collecting taxes, continuing the reversal of our once top-notch education system, hammering into our minds “you didn’t build that”, and keeping us scared is simply naïve.
It might be interesting to note that perhaps 99% of all of the massive amounts of data being collected from sites like facebook consists of things like “Please like my picture of my doggie,” and “This is a picture of what I had for lunch today.” If Sauron is real (which I don’t doubt)it probably will die an early death from boredom.
This article may be satire, but according to the PBS special about the satellites used by scientists to study the world’s Eco systems, there are hundreds of satellites orbiting the world taking hundreds of pictures a day and they are strong enough to see ‘if your toes are hanging over the curb.’ These satellites have given scientists a huge amount of knowledge about how the worlds systems work together and why such things as lightning and forest fires are important. It would be a shame if the government is also using those satellites to spy on us and brings about an out cry from the people to bring them down. I’m sure when you think about it that there are many things that use those satellites and we would lose if they were brought down.
My mother always said, ‘many truths are said in jest!’ So even though this was written for fun and laugh, for those who can see that it is humor, it also holds some dangerous truths and we as the people of the world better beware of how we react to the fact that there are satellites watching our every move and not be too quick to demand their removal just because evil can be brought about with them. There is a lot of good they do too. If we remove every device that can be used for evil as well as good, we would need to get rid of computers, cell phones, cars, electricity….. need I go on? “I am the eye in the sky, looking at you, I can read your mind. I am the maker of rules dealing with fools I can cheat you blind…..” Evil people will always use good things and tools to do their evil works. We have to battle the evil and not blame the tool.
I like that Camille! Why throw the baby out with the bath water is what my grandmother used to say. Makes sense to me but how do we keep the bad guys from misusing their power and the sophisticated equipment that we tax payers paid for? I’m remembering the McCarthy era and J Edgar Hoover(FBI) who had records on just about every one in the US. This was done all in the name of rooting out communists. Hell, he even called Reagan a commy!
History shows it is NOT the government who protects it’s country but the CITIZENS who make the country. Are founding fathers came here with the understanding we work together as a team provide safety and freedom. If ANYTHING were to happen to America in terms of ‘attacks’, the citizens of the United States would be the first to grab arms and fight! Every time the government gets ‘too big’ or ‘too controlling’, its the citizens of that country who clean house and get things back in order. We wouldn’t need any of this is we trusted our citizens and the people we put into ‘power’. But like every history lesson, there is always 1 person who wants control. Americans are being slowly pushed like ‘cattle’ into designated cages. Then eventually the slaughter will begin. American have been enabled to be lazy and codependent. The government is regulating the American citizens when it should be the other way around. The problem is though “we need strong-brave people, not people who fear and people who strongly fear fear itself, but brave people who are strong.” America is being destroyed from within, not from the outside. Security is just another way to let another Hitler try and take control.
REAL AMERICAN WOMAN, I couldnt have said it better. You are right on the mark with you statement. Our President and Government are tearing us apart from within. We have no problem defending our country and do no fear the outsiders. Our problem is within with each other Blacks against whites, Hiapanics against black and white etc. We have come so far with racisim and now it is getting so bad. No one wants to go back 50 years and our President and government + media is stearing the pot. We need to come together Blacks, Whites and Legal hispanics and stand together not apart. Please we need to do this and put this rascism aside.
Fedup – it is their plan – the plan of the Elite (the 1%) – control the masses by “divide and rule”. The Elite encourage division – division between white and black; man and woman; straight vs homosexual; etc. Realise this, that the struggle is not between these groups – it is between us (the 99%) and them (the 1%) who control the money and the media – i.e. the banking families. Know this and the battle is half won.
IT WAS CALLED TEMPIST THEN IT WENT TO ECHLON NOW WHO KNOWS WHAT THIS IS OLD TECH NOTELLING WHAT THEY HAVE NOW
low earth orbit “spy” sats don’t last more than a few weeks – orbit degrades. and there are not hundreds – there are some and they can be moved for targeting, but not hundreds.
LMAO! Hope they have fun watching 6.5 billion people giving a shit about them. ^^
the fact that there are satellites watching our every move and not be too quick to demand their removal just because evil can be brought about with them
They have insect sized drones now. The technology now exists to actually put voices in people’s heads using microwaves. Similar methods now can be used to actually read people’s thoughts. The technology to remotely control jetliners and automobiles has existed for decades. Your computer and cell phone have cameras and microphones that can easily be accessed by intelligence agencies. The new HD TV’s have cameras for user face recognition. The technology now exists to monitor movement in your house by studying the WIFI energy in your house. The Pentagon now wants to simulate the entire human population on a supercomputer using existing data of human beings’ online presences. Robots that look and act like human beings are now being developed. There is a pill now that can monitor your biological functions. Eventually they will be able to track you simply by ordering McDonald’s and Pizza Hut to put microscopic devices in their food. Drones are in the skies of America now. The goal is complete knowledge of what every human being is doing at all times. Why would someone want this power? Because with this power you can get away with murder.
Well hello everyone.i just happened to come across this site and I have to say that their is a lot people on this that need a good shake to snap them out of it..I just want to say that I’m not a American,I am Irish and and if people really want to see a bunch of treason delinquents its the Irish government.A few weeks ago @ the G8 summit in front of the whole world we the Irish people where paraded around like prostitutes,salves and retards…Our banking system is lost and still they are pumping money into them to try and keep them going…They gave Anglo Irish bank 30billion to sort it self out and then last week tapes where leaked with the bankers laughing @ how much it will cost the Irish people to pay back..Now you think the slimy bastards would be arrested and brought to justice but no,they where put on a private jet and given a mansion of some sort in the USA…..Now you would think the government would keep out of the lime light for a while,no they pass a bill to evict family’s from there homes if they are in arrears come the 1st of December 2013..Now what snowden is doing for me is suspicious,why him,why now..And does anyone really think that if the Russians or Americans really didn’t want him to speak that they couldn’t shut him up..Really stop it’s like chess,pieces all over the world been put into place..WW3
Understand that the criminal syndicate that runs America also caused that problem in Ireland. They’re doing these things globally, and they are BAD BAD BAD! Snowden is a good guy. Without him we would know nothing about the snooping. The media in America is nothing but propaganda.
The exposure of vast global surveillance is intended to discourage & stifle critical communication and/or whistle blowing activities.
Lord Snowy selected for the task with a joyful controled media behind it all.
Mark these words.
i like big brother,but not the americans they are soooo thinking that the world are them. i hope they get a big war with big bombs.come on north korea show them they are nothing but liars.60 wars they have made in 300 jears.and now they get the last big bang i hope, the final bang for this shit country.and obama he is already liang when he open his big mouth.
Not sure where you are from but do you support all the actions of your goevernment? You can bet your bottom dollar that us American’s don’t… We have fooled for many of years and are now awakening. It takes time. To wish us big war and big bombs is an unintelligent statement!
American citizens are good people; it is the American government that’s bad. It is a criminal syndicate. We Americans condemn their actions – all of which were unilaterally taken with no support from us. We want them gone!
Supposedly the American government is of the people, by the people, and for the people. If the government is bad, what does that make the people that the members of government come from?
Evidently, the US is NOT made up of a government of the people, by the people, and for the people. It is a fascist regime that is ruled by corporations and their government lapdogs. The people are powerless and oppressed (albeit, ignorant of their oppression and arrogant in thinking they actually have some say-so).
guys try this documentary…..specially the americans
the documentary is by john pilger “the war u dont see”
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So Snowden is a criminal and traitor but Bradley Manning and Julian Assange are “heroes”? Really. I get that Snowden is a flake but even a blind flake can find an occasional acorn.
Not a flake. Stop letting yourself be brainwashed.
@Melissa – you Americans are waking up ? Bit late it is, isn’t it.
I do not wish anybody a war – I wish everybody supervising his/her government.
As a German, I am aware of the fact, that Americans finally gave us the chance of a democracy – and then, following a paranoid behaviour gave it up for what they thought, is security.
Paranoia is a bad advisor, and it does not help anybody.
You are spot on. Our leaders are paranoid and it is making the population the same way. We no longer trust our government to do the right thing, much less tell us the truth. I pray that God’s people survive and the ones who don’t see the kingdom of God whether it is here on earth or somewhere else.
This is not just an American problem. Its a global cause. The Illuminati are taking over. The anti-christ is about to be revealed. The whole world will be in bondage and many will be deceived and lost forever. Its seems everybody is still asleep. Wake up all.
The US is the Empire of Evil !
http://www.thewarningsecondcoming.com The antichrist is about to show up along with the mark of the beast. Trust in the Lord and pray.
My eyes are already glowing
This guy is as full of shyte as a Christmas goose. All other things aside, he isn’t qualified to give informed opinions about any of the information he has revealed thus far.
I see you are following the talking points. He has delusions of grandeur. He is a high school drop out. Look at him, rather than what he has revealed. Ed Snowden is a computer whiz who dropped out of high school, aka computer hacker. He got the job with Booze Hamilton with the sole purpose of collecting information in order to eventually release it. He has probably collected information that was not even in his area of responsibility. This is why the government is AFRAID of him. I enjoy watching the likes of Peter King lose their shyte over this. They don’t want to be found out.
Turn the page
I can only surmise that those who treat the information revealed by Snowden thus far as new information simply weren’t paying attention when it was revealed in 2006/2007. My guess is that’s because Bush was President and everything was peachy in their world. I don’t know which I hate worse…faux outrage or the selective type.
There are so many satellites in this network that they are able to effectively monitor the entire planet’s populated surface without interruption.
They couldn’t find Osama for 10 years… give me break. lol
Unless of course they really didn’t want to find him…
Yeah, and they didn’t monitor domestic and international phone calls until after September 11, 2001.
Well, it sounds like George Orwell was a prophet after all. Hmm. Well, I am not one to worry. What will be will be. I have said for years there is a resident evil in the United States that is growing with vigor and determination. Sadly, much of that evil is hosted by too many wrong-thinking “Christians” who utter the word “God” persistently while altogether avoiding and ignoring the Teachings of Jesus of Nazareth. The United States of America has been on the downward slope for decades. Sad! My family arrived on these shores in the late 1600s, and we have served our nation’s Military since the American Revolutionary War. What we fought for is no longer.
George Orwell was inspired to to write 1984 (as was Aldous Huxley to write Brave New World) after their (terrifying) experiences at the inner sanctum of the Fabian Society (Google it) up at Oxford (university). The Fabian Society continues to thrive and drive their agenda through paid agents at Oxford – agents financed by bankers. The best way for people to control the 99% is by encouraging the dissolution of society through “socialism”.
All this leads up to Agenda 21 folks. It’s a global agenda for “world peace”. This plan permits 200,000 residents is USA, do we are about 317 million OVER the mark! You figure out why Americans & others are being targeted. It’s Hitler all over again, except now the enemy is terrorist. When they have the population down to the size they want it there will never be a chance of revolt
Oh my what a bunch of dooms day, end times the sky is falling paranoid folks you are. This whole big brouhaha with Leaky will simmer down and life will go on. The U.S. will be here 50 years from now and probably 150 years from now. Will it be different, sure it will. It is different now then when the Founding Fathers first formed it, it is different now then it was back with WW1, it is different now then it was back with WW11 and so on and so forth. This Country will continue to change, some good , some bad and some that is good for most will not make the few happy and visa-visa . Our Constitution has been amended some 28 or 29 times and the Country remains. I do not believe that Jesus is about to return and people have been preaching the end times since they learned to tell time. Cheer up, keep arguing for what you believe for as long as we can come on these public pages and say any ridiculous thing we want to and only have to worry about the derision of other free people who disagree with you we are still ok.
So, Patricia, what WOULD it take to convince you that revolution is near? Will you wait for the tramping of jack-booted thugs on your porch? Or perhaps see your children whisked away from you? Only then realizing that you’ve been a sheep? When it’s too late to change anything…
I suggest that you are an idiot of the first magnitude…one who sees the signs yet concocts “plausible” explanations that fit the happy speak being peddled to calm the truth.
I see you are getting frustrated that you cannot push me into your revolution mind set when your only final argument is that I am an idiot is what proves your point.
YOU are a bonafide IDIOT!
Oh yes very frustrated. Thank you for moving my rank up from just idiot to bona fide , I guess you are highly enough qualified in the world of idiots to bestow ranking. That you took your time to do that for me really makes me feel special. This will be the final time I will spend answering you because I do have other more interesting matters waiting for my attention. Take care in the Revolution, keep out of danger.
What branch of military did you serve Patricia?
This country will not be here 50 years from now. You are mistaken. The rest of the world cannot survive if the United States continues to dominate the world. The world is already taking steps.
I did not say we would continue to dominate the World, I said we would be here and changed. At no point did I say we would continue to rule the World, just that we would still be a part of the World. I do not think we even totally dominate the World today.
Patricia Houghtalen, while your argument sounds passionate and knowledgeable, you undermine your credibility by the lack of some very basic knowledge. Even our children are taught the number, date enacted and topic of each of the twenty-seven (27) amendments to this country’s Constitution.
Amendments to the Constitution: 1-10 – (Also known as the ‘Bill of Rights’) enacted in 1791; 11 – 1795; 12 – 1804; 13 – 1865; 14 – 1868; 15 – 1870; 16&17 1913; 18 – 1919; 19 – 1920; 20&21 – 1933; 22 – 1951; 23 – 1961; 24 – 1964; 25 – 1967; 25 – 1971; 27 – 1992
Sorry I was not detailed enough , I am well aware that the first 10 were done at once and the others done one by one, and the 21 amendment was added to repeal the 18th. Thank you for making me more aware to add more details.
Don’t know how people believe this one. It talks about what its called in Paragraph 2. They call it SAURON and then in the last paragraph they say he doesn’t want to say the name of it here..
I feel genuinely sorry for anyone that is asleep and does not see how already so many freedoms are taken from the citizens of the world, but in particular the USA. You have some pretty dangerous stuff going on there, but of course you can bury your heads in the sand, the ones that stand up for freedom will be those that save the world….from martial law and much worse.
Patricia you are going to get some shocks in the near future I think. Do you honestly think it is necessary to have cameras in space that can see the whole world and everyone and what they are doing? Well done ALL WHISTLER BLOWERS, you will be the ones that saved the world, literally, some people even when the proof is right under their noses are still blind as bats, apologies to bats no insult intended:)
We must create a system of real democracy to define the true will of Humanity and democratically decide that the banksters and all predators must be apprehended, tried, sterilized, permanently incarcerated, and their quadrillions of our stolen wealth used to provide prosperity to Humanity. Each Human must have a debit card that pays for any and all necessities. Anyone wanting luxuries can take a job or create something of value to earn extra income.
Several nations now have anti-satellite capability. Seems like Sauron would be perfect target practice.
People need to understand the capability has been around for many years. Is this a disinfo piece? Maybe- but ask yourself why a government would make it illegal to shine any bright light into the sky, let alone lasers. And yes, it IS illegal in the United States of Amerika to shine bright lights or lasers into the sky. IMHO- civil disobedience is in order- if SAURON exists, people will find out quickly.
Hear that muffled sobbing? It is Josef Goebells crying because he died too soon to see his dreams come true. And it has come true.
Patrica, u jumped in being condescending, ridiculing and name calling. there are appropriate ways to conduct discussions and stimulate thoughts. Go back to sleep.
I’ve had just about enough of this blowhard Patricia woman … people like her are the reason why people wake up in the morning and decided to go postal on their spouses … the ongoing, incessant, bantering with smug, pretentious and disrespectful remarks were ridiculous and childish at best. Some of her remarks were uneducated and emotionally driven I might add which are usually the factors that cause a woman to lose credibility in any negotiation … she should have just acknowledged the fact that people disagree with her smart ass, uninformed opinions and just walked away with some dignity but she apparently was never taught when to shut the hell up … she further disgraces herself by writing out a lengthy essay on how she doesn’t care if they see her on facebook talking about her doggy or wishing someone a Happy Barmitzvah which only a pretentious idiot that loves to hear their own frigging head vibrate would feel a necessity to explain. I found her opinions worthless and her demeanor loathsome and nasty.
Really got you thinking Oliver. I still say you are not in the end times. You are just in the changing times. Of course people don’t like to be spied on or monitored. That does not make it go away. It will not go away. Contrary to my opinions being uneducated that is not the problem you have with me. It is just that my opinions do not agree with yours and a few others but that is fine, that is what makes us free thinkers. Would you feel better if everyone came back on and said Oliver you so right? Lets keep watching and see what else comes out of Venezuela with Mr. Snowden.
Patrica, you are a special kind of stupid
End of the world in less than 100 years
The end is near for all or most of us unless major changes within society and mankind are realised. Today is 6th July 2013. Me, I’m really a nobody in the whole scheme of things, and I am in no way some sort of fruit loop, currently I run a small business, I am a single dad most of the time, when I say that, I have my youngest Liam a week on/week off, my other son Caleb (eldest boy) most of the time, and my daughter, who is the oldest child. Amber is almost 18, so she spends her time with each parent as she likes and mainly 50/50. I/we live a ok existence of earth and I have a great bunch of friends and they will be able to tell everyone what sort of person I am if I decide to reveal who I am….and yes, this above is to also clarify that the above is true as at the date specifies.
Btw I am writing this from start to finish whilst drinking coffee as everything about where we are, what’s happening in the world, and where are we going to end up is all within these readings, how I know all this I don’t understand myself, as I said above I am just a single dad raising my kids the majority of the time and running a small business to try to lead as best a life we can until something in me was unlocked and now I find my coming up with all sorts of stuff in my head that makes so much sense, it’s like I can somehow join lots of dots into mankind, where we are, what’s going on and how the fuck do we CHANGE to get our species back on track.
So, what did I mean from the above first statement “The end is near for all or most of us unless major changes within society and mankind are realised”
Up until about 4 months ago I had “forgotten the world”, falling into the traps that mankind had laid down for ourselves, or if you like the “1%’ers” against the balance of 99%. (1% being the Illuminate), but this is NOT about conspiracy theories, although I have come to understand that a lot of that is correct….and hopefully in here you will find out why it is correct.
They say 2 things are guaranteed in life…that is death and taxes, well….I’m gonna tell ya that there are 2 things in life as we are now that are GUARANTEED….and that death is probably the outcome of my 2 guarantees unless we change (which is explained later).
My 2 are De-populization or EXTINCTION……
Again I must state, that I do not know where my thinking is coming from, but a certain few people I know I have told them that my thinking is telling me that it is now urgent…urgent urgent urgent.
The meaning of life is called “sustainable motion”, to ask the very question of the meaning of life, every human at some stage asks this question to themselves….why? Is it inbuilt into us for a reason? Yes it is and as the generations pass we still don’t know what it means…..Well, the meaning of life as I stated is really sustainable motion….without it, we either don’t exist, or won’t exist…it has to be sustainable, hence this writing and how we can change so that “OUR SPECIES” has sustainable motion.
This is the “KEY”, I don’t know if anyone has ever documented or has anything similar to what I’m gonna say in here or not cause this is weird to suddenly have this urgency to tell the world something and to think that even what I say is correct or believable, but again I am feeling a urgency and compelled to say all this.
Everything in nature is/was supposed to work in harmony, giving the earth a “centre point”. Our species (humans) unknowingly has disturbed that nature of balance…due to the unbalancing I’m talking about and that we have/are now perpetuating the problem with industry and inventions etc etc.
The unbalancing that occurred unknowingly is that we (humans) should never have broken the “perpetual motion” of life, without it……we cannot exist forever. Some people talk about living forever or internal life…they are “in a way” correct, but not each person……it’s our species that can have “living forever” or “internal life”, not as individuals. These next few words are go against maybe what everyone has thought, yet it is already in place in China. OK..ok…for our species to survive any length of time, as humans we have to “not” leave a footprint on this earth, we can only duplicate ourselves by one, this gives us sustainability as a species…without it, we will be extinct…or as I fear, which is why the urgency, is population control/De-populization. Hence why the US is currently finalising a few more laws etc etc. So when it starts, they have worldwide control of all communication, especially if they do depopulate the world, they need to know everything that’s being said or done…and they are not alone, a lot of countries know and are working with them, the US is only the figure head, they are just playing their part in the cover up. How they gonna do this is through food supply, this is where Monsanto steps in with the GMO food. Everyone can go look at them so I won’t bother going into the lengthy info on this company.
They understand that we as a species cannot continue down this path and something major has to be done. In the last 103 years we have gone from 1.75 Billion people to now 7.122 Billion, just so you know, here is a copy and paste, from another word doc I did.
“I want to look back at how many people there must have been on earth 100’s of years ago. Using our growth rate over the last 120 odd years, as this gives a basis of fact.
Ok so from 1950 – 1990 going by the first paragraph gone from 2.5 billion in the world to 5 billion, one site up above had the population from various sources at 1.75.
1910 – 1950 1.75 billion to 2.5 billion ^ approx 42% (backwards -30% 2.5 to 1.75)
1950 – 1990 2.50 billion to 5.0 billion ^ 100% increase (backwards -50% 5.0 to 2.5)
1990 – 2013 5.00 billion to 7.1 billion >>>>>>>40 years comparison
In 23 years of the next 40 year cycle above and we are at 7.122 to be close (13/06/2013)
5.00 billion to 7.10 billion is a 2.1 billion increase (divide 23 years and x it by 40 = 8.65 at 2030
(records show a estimated 8.2 billion ppl)
Anyway, in the 40 year period 1990 – 2030 (estimate)
1990 – 2030 5.00 billion to 8.2 billion (lower # used) ^ 60% increase (backwards -37% 8.2 to 5.0)
If you cannot understand what I am saying, then please read on! Our planet is already overpopulated, yet each year our world population grows and grows and grows, as an organism or species…we are a BIG virus, what happens when a virus grips something? It kills it…..that is what is going to happen to mankind, we have done above in 100 years…so where are we in another 100 years (I believe unless we change, GONE)
Anyway, going by above, in 100 years going by the only true method I can, which is work on “known data” is the population growth, so by 2113, the earth would have an estimated 27 billion. There is going to be a point in time between now and then that’s going to stop us reaching 2113 unless something is done, as a species we are out of control. So, here are our options:
1. The Governments answer I believe – population control/de-populization (within 10 years and maybe as little as 2)
2. Earth’s answer I believe – somehow earths orbit interrupted (earthquake splitting the earth and increasing circumference of the earth slightly, but enough to make it slightly “off round” knocking it off orbit or disturbing gravity, but however it is, it will happen.
3. My answer – Sustainable motion: one reproduction per adult, therefore a family can have 2 kids.
This 3rd answer IS THE KEY to the success or failure of the human race, if 100 years ago this was some form or worldwide “sustainable motion” law. Then think about it…..the population would have stayed around 1.75 to 2.25 billion mark, we more than likely would not have the technology we have so would know, no difference or we may have that stuff, however our forests would be in good shape and this planet would be “balanced”. At some point I mentioned before that the balancing point was tipped over the edge, and I believe that point occurred between 1940 – 1960, why this time frame? Because during the second “40 years period” being 1950 – 1990 we see the greatest increase in population, we also see this point in time as a crossover between wars which increased the need of security, which lead to the vast growth in technology and the world being more accessible which then made our species multiple out of control, and because the dates I gave my head is saying to put down. I also believe this is why we have what we call the Illuminati, part of the bilderberg group meetings etc etc, this is why over the last 60 years the US has been on this mission along with the other 1%er’s to grab and commercialise anything and everything to take control….take control of the 99% of the population. I know what I am saying sounds unrealistic but when you look at what I have just said, you will also find yourself asking the same question.
As a species, as a human race, we need to make changes so we can have a sustainable population. This is where Governments need to listen……They need to understand that we cannot continue living and increasing the way we are, we all have to understand that by controlling the amount of “humans” on the earth gives us a basis as to what becomes sustainable giving a set number or “between a set number”. As we are at the moment, we are out of hand and out of control, this year we will see a positive surplus of our species, this number is over 60 million, so the world is growing rapidly, to put this in perspective, if there is 400 million in the USA, then our species growth will reach this number in 6.5 years, to keep up with the growth we are currently chopping 18 million acres of forests down every year…this number also grows each year….why?….because the population grows, this goes for everything, Plastic factories, aluminium refineries, mining, draining the inside of the earth of its OIL (which I believe helps lubricate plates within the under structure within our planet…..our marine life, many different species of fish and whales are on the verge of extinction…this is what we are doing and whilst doing this we are multiplying the more there are, the more we need, the more we need the more we need the more we need. Because our species grows so much, it needs more…and it’s that last part that makes us a virus…..in a world that had other organisms (all other life forms), there was always going to be one that was rotten (what’s that saying? You only need 1 bad apple for the rest to go rotten), well we are “it”. We are that virus and like all viruses they kill everything until it dies itself, they saying we are like cancer….it is so correct. We can correct this but it has to be Sustainable motion, every adult allowed 1 child, this will control our species. This also gives us a basis to gauge “its” needs, with anything damaging the eco system, NOT Permitted.
We see for most things to operate we have to have a Positive and a Negative, and for our species to survive we too have to have a positive and a negative. Our current system is positive human growth = global industry growth = destruction or for mankind, extinction. We will continue to grow as a organism spreading and expanding chewing up and destroying the very things we need to maintain life itself for short term gain, but it wasn’t you, it was done by the Illuminati, the 1%’ers, I’m not sure if they knew the outcome of what they were embarking on was going to up end doing, but we are faced with the most powerful choices mankind has ever faced, this is what will be “pinned” to the top of history if we get this right as stated above. Anyway, our positive is sustainable motion (or eternal life for our species); the negative is we have the biggest freedom choice dictated to us by nature, the rule of 1 Child per person).
I know this 1 child per person is going to raise issues, I know that parents split, however the rule stands firm, if your new partner hasn’t had “his/her” one child, then they are entitled to it and yes, you can have that child with that person. We already know that it isn’t advisable to have a baby after 40 years of age, however if a child of yours has died, then you would be able to have another as your “footprint” was removed and has a right to be replaced.
You may also not have realised it yet, but this also solves so many other problems, currently because of our growth rate, we have to produce more goods, not 1 plastics factory, we need 100, not 1000 acres being chopped down a year, but 18 million, see we have an unknown need to consume, unknown because its only ever increasing so we are just trying to keep producing to keep up…chit we even force hormones into our live stock so it grows in 6 weeks not months, why…..yes because of money (for the greedy), but sadly because if they didn’t, there would be a truly global food crisis. So we have chicks to chickens to freezer in 6 weeks almost. Other food, again cause of money, but also because of food supply problems, they throw in a cocktail of fancy name with numbers to help keep the food 2…3….5 times longer than it could naturally, that’s so over that time period it would have got used, imagine if it didn’t last as long as it currently does with the population growing….there’s no way we could keep up, unless even more factories were made to create even more chit into the eco system. Anyway, as I starting saying, having a controlled number of people on the earth gives us a constant, which from that we can cater for long term for everything.
A honest, but reluctant way to look at ourselves, our friends, our co-workers is to look at whats in society, factories upon factories upon manufacturing plants upon smelters upon refineries all creating chit into the atmosphere to cater for us, fast food global giants (most US founded). So we have become fast paced lazy polluters, and all of this you can see as we stare at the younger generations.
Once as a society we can grasp, then implement sustainable “human” motion, can we then start to prepare for some rocky times, I haven’t yet looked at the species age range to work out from this new rule how many of the world fall into what category, so to work out how to start to get the global population to decline, I am going to see if I can work out any time frames on this, but hoping it doesn’t come down to having no births over certain years and staggering it over the next 60 years.
This monetary system has shown to be unstable, corrupt and change mankind for the worse. There doesn’t need to be a money system, everybody still works, everybody is given a house when married or “classed” as married. But only ever a 3 Bedroom house as you are entitled to 2 kids only. Solar or perpetual motion cars, all kids are educated for the future (real education)….including our latest history about mankind saving itself from extinction and held Governments accountable…..Some laws were kept, but the laws were Global and reflected mankind’s motto of Sustainable Human motion
Governments won’t exist, instead I believe I voting of a panel of 12, not 1, no need for MP’s or any other form of Government, the Panel of 12 are voted in each year, they are chosen from a list of Notable people within each country etc etc, there may be 30 or 40 people on the list. 12 of those will be elected and they are the voice for Australia, for Australians (same as in other countries). Voting each year allows the people to change any person on a regular basis without much damage being done. And everyone on the panel will automatically go back on the list, so they can be re-chosen as many years running as the people see fit.
Every Country has selected roles within our world, we trade goods for goods, our people make the goods, in return everyone is given all they need, of course, to get what you need, you have to put in the effort…
If other countries want to keep the “money” system, they can, then we make whatever they want too and sell it to them and buy what we need from other countries with our new found sale.
With the population down to where it should be and the human race “us” running by Sustainable motion we will see the need for less stuff to need and with less people in the world to cater too, this new way allows us to save our species from extinction, bring it down to sustainable numbers without doing any harm, but naturally.
That was one mind-blowing post.Awesome!
definitely made me see things from a different perspective…never thought about it like this.
makes so much sense, us being a virus…makes me laugh really. we blame so much else, when we’re the root to our problems.
haha thank you for sharing this Tyler.
Wow and i started to think i was the only one that thought this way, i have been thinking exactly what you posted. However there is one small thing i would add to what has already been said and that is the population of non carers of the planet needs to be decreased. I personally would be happy to forgo having all the luxuries to save the planet. The ones i think there needs to be ALOT less of are people that have no respect for life, no respect for nature and in essence no respect even for themselves. Personally i can certainly do without all the trees being chopped down and all the oil and gas ripped outta mother earth, there is absolutely NO REASON for oil or gas at all. Power can be gotten from the sun and plain water can be used to produce any fuel that may be needed, hemp can be used for clothing, oils, ropes and building materials, so as you see there is no need to continue killing are planet. The only ones that continue to do so are the ones that don’t care and should be stopped, not the ones that are willing to go on without killing the planet. There isn’t many people out there that wouldn’t be able to look after themselves without the need for oil rigs and so called natural gas pipelines since the same thing can be done with water, hemp and the sun. Thanks for you time. Just my 2 cents worth.
Come on people be brave !!!IF you can stomach it, listen to the preaches 0f
Pastor James P. Wickstrom and VERY important his talks with Rabi Abe Finkelstein
of NY.HEAR THE TRUTH FOR THE FIRST TIME WHICH WAS NEVER TOLD IN THE FIRST PLACE.I don’t think you have the guts but for those who have and will go on U Tube
to listen TRY TO START THINKING FOR YOURSELF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CAMERAS ARE ALSO INSIDE – homes, offices, motels. Targeted victims are implanted with oral and monitoring devices, while incapacitated. Once in the home, medications switched, keys copies, combinations written down. Computers are hacked / networked – yes, even the library – there is no getting around those at the core of the massive takeover that began DECADES ago. Every move, every word is being monitored. Reports of chemicals being used to keep the public oblivious, as one of the “leaders” laughs that no one can see what is taking place right under their noses. He carries on that “no one will ever figure it out” – trail of deaths follow this man – City officials prohibit all reports and evidence when linked to the takeover. Stocks are being sold with paperwork scanned /altered – beneficiaries remain oblivious. Jewelry being switched; antiques, heirlooms, etc. Title companies knowingly recording forged and fraudulent legal documents for illegal takeover – even preparing fraudulent loan documents to make it appear legitimate. Properties turned over to those who participate in the atrocities against the public – as the takeover continues.
to tyler GOD told man to go forth and multiply, you have to have more christians than sinners otherwise we will end up where we are at this moment
Hey, you jackwagons — I’m watching you!
I believe Malaysia BN Government using satellite technology to manipulate its own citizens mind. I am a victim for 35 years.
Dear @Sir, @Madam,
STOP TORTURE NOW!
PLEASE HELP THE VICTIMS!
I am in the Special Forces and i can very well believe this guy.
Please disregard this article… it isn’t true, I haven’t tried to take over Middle Earth for ages!
Wow, I thought it was really true..
Oh I bet it is true, has to be…
Boy ya think this is what all the Targeted Individuals, who are currently being tortured in America, have been saying our government has been doing to them for years? Gee maybe there is something to this Organized Harassment.
These satellites and the data they collect are monitored by people. These people go home every night to their families, just like every other minion of this illegitimate, tyrannical government. And that is where you can find them, and deal with the problem – right where they live.
Es cierto que nos espían, acosan, torturan, se burlan de nosotros, eso hoy dia te lo puede hacer hasta el vecino de arriba, de abajo y el de enfrente, venden aparatos y muchos artilugios para poderte espiar en cualquier tienda del espia. Cuanto más fácil será que lo haga la NASA o cualquier base científica más cualificada para ello.
I guess we all have to wear sun hats with flat-screen monitors on them facing up. Then, a flash mob could look like a flock of butterflies, or empty sidewalk.
BTW, does Prism really store all that b3n1s extender spam forever? Now THAT is a waste of government money.
U.S government hase implantet me weth mutiply implans ears, ayse, neck ,heart, liver,loung and thro all the the body arms and legs patialy list you can find to implant – victims.com i am albanian citisen and i went there for a better life i am still torured near death in dauly bases till this moment from 2001 keaping me disablet for all these years throo horrible mind and body torture .
Well, how can we jam them?
My name is Darren M. and I’m being targeted with satellite D.E.W.’s (directed energy weapons). I believe I’m being targeted for experimentation purposes. This satellite D.E.W. targeting is most probably being performed by an entity within the Pentagon and U.S. defense corporations.
I am being targeted with concentrated directed energy, possibly microwave, in the form of a narrow beam and/or laser. Multiple times throughout the day, I will experience either a painful burning sensation on the top of my head, or the painful sensation of a pin/nail entering the top of my head, both of which are followed by pain within my head, and a feeling of sickness and weakness throughout my body. The pain and sickness I experience following each D.E.W. hit to the top of my head varies directly with the intensity of the hit. This satellite D.E.W. targeting of me has been physical and mental torture. It causes me pain and sickness many times throughout my day and depresses my mood. It has isolated me from my friends and family. I do not like to go out in public places such as restaurants, stores, etc. because I never know when I will be hit by the satellites.
I believe the purpose of this satellite D.E.W. experimentation is to see what short-term and long-term negative health effects can be produced by targeting humans. From my personal observations of the pain and sickness I experience following each hit to the top of my head, I believe it is possible for these satellite D.E.W.’s to cause strokes and cancers in humans. I believe this experimentation is also being performed in order to refine the use of these satellite anti-personnel weapons to the point where future targeted individuals will not be able to detect what is causing their pain and sickness. If this goal is achieved, these D.E.W.’s will likely be used on targets such as activists, journalists, and other people deemed as threats. I believe these weapons have the capability to slowly kill individuals with little to no trace of evidence.
These satellite directed energy weapons are a serious threat to our democracy, and human rights on our planet. They are silent and invisible, and therefore not easily detectable. They employ laser technology which allow their operators to target specific individuals, without detection by others, even when in close proximity to the targeted individual.
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Darren, we wish you all the best.
Should you survive these attacks, we would love to hear your story.